About the Ultimate Universe after "Ultimate End"

[Digifiend]

But they have created copies of other realities. The Spider Warriors ones, at least, and America Chavez's knowledge of other realities seem to be still valid (she knew where to send a foe in Ultimates #10, for example).

The weird thing, the 1610 universe seem to be the only one that wasn't restored...

Spider-UK's home reality is still gone.

[vikramkhore]

Spider-UK's home reality is still gone.

zombie and mc2?

[ian0delond]

MC2 still exists.
No idea about Zombie.

[CentralPower]

Technically, the current multiverse is a "different" multiverse than the one from before q2 of 2015. Most of it is the same, but some of it (the stuff that Marvel needed to have changed) is different. So, Spider-UK's universe is gone because it needs to be for Spider-UK to work as a character. Ditto for the various universes that the members of the Squadron Supreme hail from.

But, MC2 gets a pass (or gets "replaced") because somebody at Marvel wants it (for whatever reason).

[Tycon]

I really want to know if the Next Avengers survived.



it's funny how all of them are the product of failed relationships.

Plus, did Black Widow and Captain Hydra ever even hook up?

[Michael Watkins]

Plus, did Black Widow and Captain Hydra ever even hook up?

Steve routinely donates his "super-soldiers" to a local clinic.

[Michael Watkins]

[jackolover]

It's really more Reed restoring the universes than Reece though. We don't know if or when they've gotten around to restoring the Ultimate Universe.

Reece wanted to save Miles and the universe Reed and company were obviously going to restore first was their own. So if you're going to save Miles the former 616 is obviously the first place to put him.

I looked at the continuity in Secret Wars #9, and it states after the "8 months later" section, Sue consults Valeria about what happened, and Val tells her the mechanics : Franky dreams them up, Reed places them, Owen powers them. Then, the Future Foundation are getting into their research craft to catalogue the whole thing, (Multiverse), so it's completed and done by 8 months later, or they wouldn't be getting in their craft. If it wasn't completed they would wait till it was all done, wouldn't they?

[CentralPower]

The 8 month gap is irrelevant for Reed and Sue and the rest of the Foundation. If I recall, the remains of Battleworld (where Reed et al are standing) are outside of time. That is why is appears that the multiverse reformed instantaneously. The Foundation crew can go anywhere and anywhen they like (at least from Battleworld).

As for who did what, we know that Reese was not just providing power to the new multiverse. He was probably sneaky about it, but we know that he made things happen for Miles Morales. And, is anybody really going to blame Franklin Richards for the Maker surviving? (My "go to" explanation is that Reese is responsible for some of the more depraved elements of post="Secret Wars" Marvel. The guy is a whackaloon. He made bad things happen.)

[jackolover]

I really want to know if the Next Avengers survived.



it's funny how all of them are the product of failed relationships.

Yeah, in that alternate universe where the Next Avengers were hatched, all those relationships were much better and children were brought into the world. Or, it was just like this universe, except they had more sex than the MU. Certainly the MU was very prudish, and that's why children never came from those couplings. (Too much emphasis on safe sex or, no sex outside marriage).

There could be other explanation for the Next A, that the couples had time to procreate, and weren't "concerned with bringing children into this whackadoo world", as Janet Pym put it. I think that was the main reason those couplings never produced children in the MU.