Oversized "Captain America: Steve Rogers" #4 Packs In Shocking Reveals, Returns

[solletaire]

Given the circumstances everyone will give Steve a pass. Maybe not overnight in some cases but it will happen ... and it should.

Steve giving himself a pads or not is the tougher question but he'll get over it and move on eventually.

I agree. It's not that different from what Daredevil, Scarlet Witch, or Iron Man (twice!) went through. And they are back to being considered heroes.

[MindofShadow]

And that went on wwwwwwaayyyy to long.

Because it sold

meaning people liked it........

[PaxHouse]

Interesting indeed for all that was shown within this Month's Issue, as the effects and aftermath of what happened during Pleasant Hill is continued to be focused upon.

There was only a minor notice with spoilers:

the New Quasar

end of spoilers and the sub-plot with the T-Bolts (especially for both Bucky/WS & Kobic) is playing really strongly among the continuing drama of Captain A's battle against Hydra/Red Skull.

[MindofShadow]

I agree. It's not that different from what Daredevil, Scarlet Witch, or Iron Man (twice!) went through. And they are back to being considered heroes.

Naw this has never happened before! No hero has EVER had their mind messed with and made them not act like themselves!!! NEVER!!

[macattack]

I just laugh at the fact that I'm wearing a t-shirt of that scene right now. Yeah this feels like he is point to destroy the character make Sam greater cap instead of both being on same level.

What Spencer is doing to Cap reminds me of the Breaking Benjamin song Lights Out oh so much.



It doesn't matter what Spencer's ultimate objective is at this point. He is annihilating Steve Roger's character irrevocably to achieve it. The ends don't justify the means.

[Leach]

It doesn't matter what Spencer's ultimate objective is at this point. He is annihilating Steve Roger's character irrevocably to achieve it. The ends don't justify the means.

We haven't even reached the end of this story arc, we are only 4 chapters in and everyone is complaining about the sky falling. We have yet to see how this story fleshes out.

Personally this story has been quite entertaining. Once Steve is back to "normal" then this story will go down as a footnote in the Marvel Universe and may allow for some good call backs in future stories. This could change Hydra forever if he eliminates the Red Skull. We just have to wait and see. I'd suggest reserving judgment till there is some greater thesis to this story.

[Majin_O.A.W.]

It's sort of cool in a sense to see a bad Cap, because we get an idea of just how dangerous he can be if he's not holding back.

Red Ghost and the Apes aren't exactly push overs. On a good day they can give the FF a descent run for their money.

Do you remember when I suggested Cap was a villain, a few years back. I stated how dangerous he could be because of his convictions. All that I have said is coming to pass. It's like Marvel read my posts and inserting ideas discussed into their stories.

I wonder if they will touch on Cap's brief drug addiction during Streets of Poison.

[Swamp Thing 2099]

Some of the comments in this thread just make me groan.

Glad to know I'm not alone.

Naw this has never happened before! No hero has EVER had their mind messed with and made them not act like themselves!!! NEVER!!

Huh. Woulda look at that.

We haven't even reached the end of this story arc, we are only 4 chapters in and everyone is complaining about the sky falling. We have yet to see how this story fleshes out.

Personally this story has been quite entertaining. Once Steve is back to "normal" then this story will go down as a footnote in the Marvel Universe...

This. Everyone's complaining like this is permanent. Chill out, you guys. This is comics, where nothing is forever. Not even the death of Bucky Barnes.

[CrimsonEchidna]

This feels like the equivalent of SpOck murdering Massacre in cold-blood and beating the living tar out of Jester and Screwball. I wonder if it's going to be glossed over and quickly forgotten about as quickly?

One of Steve's friends would have to inexplicably become the new Queenpin of Crime though.

[Frontier]

I agree. It's not that different from what Daredevil, Scarlet Witch, or Iron Man (twice!) went through. And they are back to being considered heroes.

It's just an established part of the Marvel Universe that heroes forgive and forget the most awful things, especially when writers come up with convenient excuses.

One of Steve's friends would have to inexplicably become the new Queenpin of Crime though.

Well, Diamondback did rejoin the Serpent Society for one arc and is now presumably on the lam .

[ssunn]

Naw this has never happened before! No hero has EVER had their mind messed with and made them not act like themselves!!! NEVER!!

The difference here is that they are saying Steve isn't who he is because of his memories were changed. I like to think that it's his character, not his memories that made him into the hero we all knew as Cap.

Daredevil has a dark side already, so being possessed by the Beast only pushed him to this limit.

[DurararaFTW]

What happened to Cyclops was the culmination of a story about his character and what he is capable that started in Decimation, even if it made various false steps along the way. I can't truly say the same of Herr Rogers. It doesn't inform his character at all really. It's just something to take him off the board so Sam can have the Shield and Carol can be the big hero on campus without actually killing him (yet).

[Orbus]

So actually reading this issue I don't think anyone should be too concerned about Steve Rogers killing anyone.

[MindofShadow]

The difference here is that they are saying Steve isn't who he is because of his memories were changed. I like to think that it's his character, not his memories that made him into the hero we all knew as Cap.

You completely change someones upbringing, it is going to change the person.

[Piston]

Some of the comments in this thread just make me groan.

I know right? "ZOMG someone is doing something new and different and trying to tell a unique story. The horror!!" It's like 1000 "comic book guy" clones unleashed on the internet.