as we all know the cosmic power that the silver surfer has is super super super powerful !! i can't imagine anyone within the DC universe that can beat him or maybe I'm wrong ?
as we all know the cosmic power that the silver surfer has is super super super powerful !! i can't imagine anyone within the DC universe that can beat him or maybe I'm wrong ?
With PIS on? Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lanterns, Shazam......most of the heavy hitters.
Oh, and Batman, of course. Prep time. Gotta love it.
With PIS off? The list is much smaller. Superman might if he makes no mistakes. After that, you pretty much have to resort to beings like The Specter or The Phantom Stranger.
Oh, and Batman, of course. Prep time. Gotta love it.
Though much is taken, much abides; and though
We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are,
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
--Lord Alfred Tennyson--
Power drain (Surfer's been drained a few times ), Batsuit fast enough to respond to non full speed Flash, Batsuit forged in the heart of the sun and knock around and take hits from Darkseid with effort, Batsuit cloaked from Superman's senses , Batsuit powerful enough to take blows from Superman,JLA /new gods tech etc
It's not hard to see Batman beating Surfer with prep in a story especially in character (trusting surfer/deceptive Batman ) . Or even in a scenario through years of mental/emotional manipulation
It only requires Surfer to be "in character" and not vapourize him off the bat
As far as characters that can actually beat Surfer in a Rumbles match -Takion and Amazo come to mind
PIS is never on in Rumbles, so "in-character" is not a thing here.
Batman would need to have feats of prepping to handle someone that is many times FTL and powerful enough to blow up planets, open and fight in black holes, etc.
Yup, PIS on scenarios are useless, you can bullshit anyone a win over anyone.
^ he's done the combination of powers - FTL time travellers and class 100s when he took down the JL , though not on the same person
If Batman has one sided prep vs Surfer he has a decent shot at taking him down
Takion?
He's basically DCs version of the Silver Surfer in some respects.
Can anyone in the DCU beat the Surfer?
Well, we can start with The Presence and then count back from there. Spectre, Mxy, Elaine Belloc, Michael, Lucifer Morningstar, Anti-Monitor....
But more powerful, being able to take over the speed force and Kyle's GL ring at the same time (and for some reason , Captain Atom and golden cyborg )
This was back at a time DC were pushing for "all powers come from the Source Wall" in Genesis, an event almost immediately forgotten since
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Though much is taken, much abides; and though
We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are,
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
--Lord Alfred Tennyson--
The most powerful Lanterns ever (White Kyle, Lareeze with his full battery, etc......) should be able to match up.
Or at least I can't see Surfer lol nopping Larfleeze when the dude held off a small army of GL's by himself.
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New 52 Captain Atom feels like they should have a shot from what little I've seen of them. I suppose it depends how deep their esoterics run (and their durability and stuff like that) but "lolnope"-ing the very idea of superspeed as he seized control of the Flash's own speed force to paralyze him with left an impression.
A Guardian of OA - if they are still around and at their best. Not a challenge for them. Spectre, of course. Mxy, and all the mentioned cosmics.
As also mentioned since SS gets drained quite a bit - there are enough super scientists to figure that out. Give me Great Darkness Saga Darkseid and his 3 billion mind controlled Daxamites for fun.