as we all know the cosmic power that the silver surfer has is super super super powerful !! i can't imagine anyone within the DC universe that can beat him or maybe I'm wrong ?
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08-27-2016, 04:31 AM #1Spectacular Member
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who in the DC universe can beat the Silver Surfer ?
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08-27-2016, 04:57 AM #2Extraordinary Member
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With PIS on? Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lanterns, Shazam......most of the heavy hitters.
Oh, and Batman, of course. Prep time. Gotta love it.
With PIS off? The list is much smaller. Superman might if he makes no mistakes. After that, you pretty much have to resort to beings like The Specter or The Phantom Stranger.
Oh, and Batman, of course. Prep time. Gotta love it.Though much is taken, much abides; and though
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08-27-2016, 05:22 AM #3nice to meet ya!
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how is exactly is bats gonna prep for SS?
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08-27-2016, 05:35 AM #4BANNED
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Power drain (Surfer's been drained a few times ), Batsuit fast enough to respond to non full speed Flash, Batsuit forged in the heart of the sun and knock around and take hits from Darkseid with effort, Batsuit cloaked from Superman's senses , Batsuit powerful enough to take blows from Superman,JLA /new gods tech etc
It's not hard to see Batman beating Surfer with prep in a story especially in character (trusting surfer/deceptive Batman ) . Or even in a scenario through years of mental/emotional manipulation
It only requires Surfer to be "in character" and not vapourize him off the bat
As far as characters that can actually beat Surfer in a Rumbles match -Takion and Amazo come to mind
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08-27-2016, 05:40 AM #5Incredible Member
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PIS is never on in Rumbles, so "in-character" is not a thing here.
Batman would need to have feats of prepping to handle someone that is many times FTL and powerful enough to blow up planets, open and fight in black holes, etc.
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08-27-2016, 05:48 AM #6Extraordinary Member
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Yup, PIS on scenarios are useless, you can bullshit anyone a win over anyone.
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08-27-2016, 05:50 AM #7BANNED
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^ he's done the combination of powers - FTL time travellers and class 100s when he took down the JL , though not on the same person
If Batman has one sided prep vs Surfer he has a decent shot at taking him down
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08-27-2016, 05:55 AM #8Legendary God of Pirates
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Takion?
He's basically DCs version of the Silver Surfer in some respects.
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08-27-2016, 06:01 AM #9Prince of Duckness
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Can anyone in the DCU beat the Surfer?
Well, we can start with The Presence and then count back from there. Spectre, Mxy, Elaine Belloc, Michael, Lucifer Morningstar, Anti-Monitor....
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08-27-2016, 06:04 AM #10BANNED
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But more powerful, being able to take over the speed force and Kyle's GL ring at the same time (and for some reason , Captain Atom and golden cyborg )
Originally Posted by Nik Hasta
This was back at a time DC were pushing for "all powers come from the Source Wall" in Genesis, an event almost immediately forgotten since
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08-27-2016, 06:17 AM #11Extraordinary Member
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If Doctor Doom was able to do it, Batman can do it too. Originally Posted by master of read
Plus? The Batman thing was mostly a jab at the Batgod concept.Last edited by Vanguard-01; 08-27-2016 at 06:21 AM.
Though much is taken, much abides; and though
We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are,
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
--Lord Alfred Tennyson--
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08-27-2016, 06:30 AM #12nice to meet ya!
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yeah, you can't compare doom to bruce in this case. Originally Posted by Vanguard-01
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08-27-2016, 06:56 AM #13Voice of the Authorities
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The most powerful Lanterns ever (White Kyle, Lareeze with his full battery, etc......) should be able to match up.
Or at least I can't see Surfer lol nopping Larfleeze when the dude held off a small army of GL's by himself.Black Knight of SO
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08-27-2016, 07:22 AM #14Extraordinary Member
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New 52 Captain Atom feels like they should have a shot from what little I've seen of them. I suppose it depends how deep their esoterics run (and their durability and stuff like that) but "lolnope"-ing the very idea of superspeed as he seized control of the Flash's own speed force to paralyze him with left an impression.
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08-27-2016, 09:50 AM #15Astonishing Member
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A Guardian of OA - if they are still around and at their best. Not a challenge for them. Spectre, of course. Mxy, and all the mentioned cosmics.
As also mentioned since SS gets drained quite a bit - there are enough super scientists to figure that out. Give me Great Darkness Saga Darkseid and his 3 billion mind controlled Daxamites for fun.
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