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    Silver Surfer has been depowered and beaten up by Doctor Doom and Red Hulk. Doom is a genius, and Ross is a general. With facts about how SS's powers work, I'm sure some people in the DC could figure out how to beat him.

    In a brawl, no prep.

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    Wonder Woman (with Lasso) - To change his mind about his course of action.
    Orion - Master of the Astro Force!


    Potential victors with intel and prep time.

    Luthor
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    Classic Dr Fate should beat Surfy, yes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Smith View Post

    Give me Great Darkness Saga Darkseid and his 3 billion mind controlled Daxamites for fun.
    I don't think Darkseid would need his Daxamites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMale View Post
    Classic Dr Fate should beat Surfy, yes?
    If his autoshields can hold off Norrin until he can act, he has a shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slade1 View Post
    If his autoshields can hold off Norrin until he can act, he has a shot.
    The most I could find for Classic Fate's auto-shields was tanking hits from PC Kryptonians, but that left him dazed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primetime Harder View Post
    The most I could find for Classic Fate's auto-shields was tanking hits from PC Kryptonians, but that left him dazed.
    That should be enough to tank anything Surfer can dish out no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonknight11 View Post
    That should be enough to tank anything Surfer can dish out no?
    In raw power maybe, but Surfer has a much wider array of powers than even PC Kryptonians. Surfer's speed is comparable to the Flash, he's beaten down Abomination bare handed in one page, and he's a combination of Magneto, Graviton and a weaker Molecule Man on top of that. Besides concept-level beings, Classic Fate, White Lantern Kyle and Larfleeze have the best chance, just because they can match his array of abilities. And as far as I know, prep has only worked against Surfer because he seemed to share Superman's vulnerability to magic back in the day. Besides Doom draining him, he was also put under by some random cult's sleep potion.

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    IIRC, the US armed forces drained him once with tech. Surfer has shown strong magic resistance. He shrugged off blasts from Karnilla, the Asgardian Sorceress and clocked her. MU magic is more about pure power than defintional weakness like Superman. Techy Marvel types like Galactus duke it out with magical types like Mephisto all the time. The stronger wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by master of read View Post
    yeah, you can't compare doom to bruce in this case.
    T'challa did it too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Know View Post
    Silver Surfer has been depowered and beaten up by Doctor Doom and Red Hulk. Doom is a genius, and Ross is a general.
    Not denying that it didn't happen for Red Hulk (a feat is a feat), but I have a hard time in my head reconciling the defeat of Surfer with the inability to capture a C-lister like Domino. Oh Jeph Loeb, you silly cat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard-01 View Post
    With PIS on? Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lanterns, Shazam......most of the heavy hitters.

    Oh, and Batman, of course. Prep time. Gotta love it.

    With PIS off? The list is much smaller. Superman might if he makes no mistakes. After that, you pretty much have to resort to beings like The Specter or The Phantom Stranger.

    Oh, and Batman, of course. Prep time. Gotta love it.
    The list is still HUGE with PIS off - and you don't need to go anywhere near as high as the two beings you listed to fill it.

    And Batman isn't beating the Surfer with prep time. What can he do to react to an attack that is several times faster than lightspeed?

    And Superman isn't beating Surfer either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KJS View Post
    And Superman isn't beating Surfer either.
    Unless it's Superman Prime 1 Million. Or maybe pre-Crisis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primetime Harder View Post
    Unless it's Superman Prime 1 Million. Or maybe pre-Crisis.
    You mean Superman 1 Million. Superman Prime was the golden version that sat in the son for thousands of years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KJS View Post
    The list is still HUGE with PIS off - and you don't need to go anywhere near as high as the two beings you listed to fill it.

    And Batman isn't beating the Surfer with prep time. What can he do to react to an attack that is several times faster than lightspeed?
    He has a suit these days fast enough to match Flash's non top speed

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dork Knight View Post
    He has a suit these days fast enough to match Flash's non top speed
    That sort of qualifier verges on nebulous enough to not really have meaning though "as long as the Flash isn't really trying, I can match him." That was also New 52 Barry at the time.
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