Though much is taken, much abides; and though
We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are,
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
--Lord Alfred Tennyson--
It's disturbing enough to plop a dead animal in front of people. A bloody, skinless carcass? Even more so.
Plus, in ancient cultures, presenting the animal is like giving a gift. You want it to look good when it's given. Taking it away, skinning it, and butchering it is part of the ritual of accepting the gift.
Though much is taken, much abides; and though
We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are,
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
--Lord Alfred Tennyson--
There are also plenty of rural (and not so rural) American folks who still hunt and kill all sorts of animals. It's not a big stretch to imagine a family living on a somewhat secluded farm would hunt deer and have a place out back to butcher animals, the family often participates in the process too. I know plenty of my family all throughout the Midwest and the Southern States would be mighty impressed with someone bringing a whole animal as a gift. I have an Aunt and Uncle who make jerky from Deer and use the hooves and horns to make and sell decorative items, and probably a hundred other things. Honestly, if anything this was a grandiose gesture, but not a totally off base one.
My concern is that this book is going to focus a lot on the kid too much. I was really hoping for an adventure comic centered on the Trinity, but I'm already getting the sense that a whole lot of this book is going to be about John learning is powers and turning out to be so powerful blah blah blah ... Franklin Richards comes to mind when I go down this path. Hopefully we'll get some stories that are about BM and some that are about WW and their supporting casts and not just have them feel like guest stars in a SM comic.
Over analyzing such trivial matters as Dinner offerings is so very tedious and Boar - ing
Diana did say she should have asked if they were vegetarian first. It's surprising that a boar is generating so much discussion. ;-)
As for the Lois/Diana thing, New 52 Lois and Diana were fine with each other, but that Lois never dated Clark/Superman. Also, remember that the Lois we have in this story is the Lois from the old universe who had insecurities about her Diana. This Diana not only dated her Superman but she lost him. I can see how that might bring back some old insecurities that Lois had. Remember that the story is told from Lois' point of view. She saw Diana as a rival, so Diana had to put her mind at ease. I think visually they showed that Diana hasn't gotten over her Clark, and maybe in future issues they might go into it in detail.
Not Peter David.
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Not Peter David.
Yeah, I don't like it either. Sometimes I think some of the people who work on things with her aren't aware of her abilities. At least Greg Rucka knows, so in saying that Trinity gets the thumbs down from me.
Her ability with animals is one of the big components that attracted me to her.
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Ok, sorry I brought it up. I'm getting Boar-ed with it now. ;P
It's not about 'deserve' it's about what you believe. And I believe in Love.
The author placed the boar on Diana's back to emphasize the fact that she is a warrior from an ancient tribe of women called the Amazons. It was all done for a dramatic effect; that is all. I really don't think people need to overly stress about it, or even a little bit. As for Diana hunting and consuming animals, with all due respect, she is not snow white. She is the "warrior" part of the Trinity. To think Amazons or even Diana are vegetarians would be, well, I can't tell people what to think, but I could never digest (no pun intended) that Wonder Woman is a vegetarian.
No I actually think it is interesting. Why shouldn't Diana hunt animals to eat, especially with her cultural background?
The only thing I didn't like about Trinity was the statement that both Clark and his son were the most dangerous people on earth. (sucks teeth), oh please. I could think of several people who would fit that description in the DCU, including Wonder Woman.
If this author is going to be one of those writers who power worships Superman and Superman only then it is obvious that this book is not going to be my cup of tea. Write each character fairly according to their full abilities; don't favour any character over any.
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Aquaman can communicate with fish. He still eats them.
Communicating with animals doesn't mean you're incapable of recognizing that everything eats everything else. I can see her preferring meat that was humanely slaughtered, but that doesn't mean she has to never eat meat again.
The no meat thing was one writer's interpretation of Diana's powers. Perez had Diana explicitly state that she DID eat meat, and she even remarked on how delicious the lamb smelled. He was the one who GAVE her the animal empathy.
Though much is taken, much abides; and though
We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are,
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
--Lord Alfred Tennyson--
She couldn't bring herself to kill the Minotaur, I like to think Wonder Woman wouldn't sink her teeth into a cute little lamb, stolen from its mother, especially if she can communicate with them. She might as well eat humans I mean where does she draw the line…Besides, lab-grown meat is more convenient, that's where we're headed, the Amazons would've been doing it for decades
The Minotaur was a thinking, intelligent creature, easily on par with humans. He was helpless and no longer a threat to her. Killing him would've been right up there with murdering a human being.
Also? New 52 Diana never demonstrated animal empathy.
1.) The lamb was already cooking when she arrived. She would've had no idea of what it's fate was.I like to think Wonder Woman wouldn't sink her teeth into a cute little lamb, stolen from its mother, especially if she can communicate with them. She might as well eat humans I mean where does she draw the line
2.) It's never been clear to what extent she can "communicate" with animals. Animals do not have the intelligence for a meaningful human conversation. Aquaman clarified this about his powers as well. He doesn't "talk to fish." Fish aren't intelligent enough to speak with (dolphins, being an obvious exception.) Most animals would be much the same. Prey animals, especially, tend to be lacking in intelligence.
3.) An animal life is not nearly on the same level as a human life.
4.) Ancient Greek beliefs held cannibalism as possibly the single greatest sin of all. Certainly one of them, anyway. Big difference between that and eating meat when you're hungry.
Yay! More yummy chemicals in our diet!…Besides, lab-grown meat is more convenient, that's where we're headed, the Amazons would've been doing it for decades
And the Amazons haven't had the technology to brew up meat in petri dishes since the end of the Silver Age.
Though much is taken, much abides; and though
We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are,
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
--Lord Alfred Tennyson--