Marvel's new Spider-Man animated series

[Digifiend]

Sony doesn't own their own channels so they will need to do a deal with someone to air a 45 minute Spider-Man show for at least a single season.

They actually DO own TV channels. Just not in the USA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop_(UK_and_Ireland)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop_Max

[Revolutionary_Jack]

They actually DO own TV channels. Just not in the USA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop_(UK_and_Ireland)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop_Max

Considering that America has a population of 330 million compared to the 60 million of the UK and Ireland (and possibly less given Brexit), yeah I guess they don't really own a TV channel.

Any TV show or production really depends on the American market first and foremost.

[Digifiend]

True. The point was a technicality really. They do own TV channels - they just don't affect the prospect of Sony doing any shows (Pop in fact mainly shows imports, one of their main selling points being that it's the UK home of Power Rangers) due to not operating in the US. I do wonder if they'll ever launch a kids channel in the US, though I understand it'll need a different name if they do.

[Revolutionary_Jack]

True. The point was a technicality really. They do own TV channels - they just don't affect the prospect of Sony doing any shows (Pop in fact mainly shows imports, one of their main selling points being that it's the UK home of Power Rangers) due to not operating in the US. I do wonder if they'll ever launch a kids channel in the US, though I understand it'll need a different name if they do.

The only reason to do that would be if you have enough IP under your control and original programming that could make the investment work. Disney Plus was launched with that in mind. Heck they're going to get their hands on The Simpsons with the Fox buyout. Imagine having the Syndication rights to that and Disney Plus being the only place you can watch Simpsons.

In the case of Sony, their Pictures and Television divisions are right now being approached by Apple for a possible buyout:
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/03...pple-buy-sony/

Apple will want Sony to start their own streaming rights. If that happens, then the Spider-Man rights go to Marvel though distribution rights might have to be shared and you might have a Hulk situation where Marvel can feature the Hulk in any movie so long as they don't call it the Hulk or the Incredible Hulk.

[Mister Mets]

I am definitely sure it can be done and it will be popular. Sony can do it with another network, if they cut a deal with Netflix because now with streaming and all that, you have more freedom. Sony doesn't own their own channels so they will need to do a deal with someone to air a 45 minute Spider-Man show for at least a single season.

A single 10 episode season of hour long episodes where you are writing 2-part scripts and releasing it as one (similar to Justice League Season 2).

What I'd do is adapt some of the Spectacular Stuff and mash it with Amazing. Like how cool it would be to see an adaptation of the Owl/Octopus War or in this case the Hammerhead or Tombstone-Ock war since Owl is a Daredevil villain and rights aren't available.

I'm guessing if Sony was willing to make a 45 minute Spider-Man animated series, they could get a customer. But it wouldn't be an easy process.

Spider-Man's a major brand, but there's the potential for pushback from Disney, as well as competition from Disney Spider-Man animated series. And it's an idiosyncratic enough product that it might not fit whatever a particular channel wants to do later (IE- they may think it works now, but it's possible a network overhaul wouldn't leave room for an hour-long animated series.)

[Revolutionary_Jack]

I'm guessing if Sony was willing to make a 45 minute Spider-Man animated series, they could get a customer. But it wouldn't be an easy process.

Spider-Man's a major brand, but there's the potential for pushback from Disney, as well as competition from Disney Spider-Man animated series. And it's an idiosyncratic enough product that it might not fit whatever a particular channel wants to do later (IE- they may think it works now, but it's possible a network overhaul wouldn't leave room for an hour-long animated series.)

Netflix is currently doing Young Justice with Greg Weisman. Weisman has said that he wanted to do Spectacular Spider-Man and go to college and release longform home video movies on the model of Batman Mask of the Phantasm that might go PG-13. Weisman said that Spectacular rights are with Sony so Disney can't revive it if they want but Marvel/Disney have rights to do the small series.

So if Sony wants they could ask Weisman to do the 45mins show and Netflix could say yes. Netflix would love Spider-Man. Weisman might have to retool art and assets so that it doesn't look exactly like Spectacular but it could work.

In general Marvel Animation has no ambition and initiative. Nothing like what DCWB did with Bruce Timm and Co. Disney's own animation divisions which produce shows like Gravity Falls or the 2017 Ducktales aren't allowed access to Marvel's toys. Like you know get the guy who did Darkwing Duck to do a legitimate superhero show. Darkwing Duck, the superhero parody was at its best as good as Batman and Justice League and better than the Fox Spider-Man and many shows.

About the only great Marvel cartoons I've seen are Spectacular Spider-Man and XMen: Evolution

[Spider-Chan]

In the case of Sony, their Pictures and Television divisions are right now being approached by Apple for a possible buyout:
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/03...pple-buy-sony/

There's absolutely nothing going on with this "rumor". Basically, a writer of Variety made a list "2019 predictions" and in those "predictions" there was "Apple buys Sony Pictures", but it was that, a prediction on zero basis. There hasn't been any talks between them, the writer simply made that "prediction" because "Apple has a lot of money and they might be looking to buy a studio, maybe Sony, who wasn't willing to sale a while back". Zero sources where he got that, it was mere speculation from him because Apple has a lot of money that they might be looking to spend on something.

Other news sources took it as it was indeed a actual "rumor", not just some clickbait list someone made.

[Revolutionary_Jack]

There's absolutely nothing going on with this "rumor". Basically, a writer of Variety made a list "2019 predictions" and in those "predictions" there was "Apple buys Sony Pictures", but it was that, a prediction on zero basis. There hasn't been any talks between them, the writer simply made that "prediction" because "Apple has a lot of money and they might be looking to buy a studio, maybe Sony, who wasn't willing to sale a while back". Zero sources where he got that, it was mere speculation from him because Apple has a lot of money that they might be looking to spend on something.

Other news sources took it as it was indeed a actual "rumor", not just some clickbait list someone made.

Variety (along with Deadline and The Hollywood Reporters) are usually the big industry trade papers and generally those papers don't do clickbait stuff. So I think he might have had some source with that.

I'd be happy if Sony doesn't get bought out. I want them to hold the rights to Spider-Man and I don't want mergers and stuff.

[Spider-Chan]

Here's the "article" in question where everything originated: https://variety.com/2018/biz/feature...19-1203087313/

"Predictions", but is mere speculation from the author's part. For starters, Variety had done this "predictions" for years now, and they would constantly "predict" that Apple would buy Disney, pretty much giving the same reasoning as above. Again, zero basis beyond "Apple has a lot of money and they might want to spend in some studio".

[Revolutionary_Jack]

Here's the "article" in question where everything originated: https://variety.com/2018/biz/feature...19-1203087313/

"Predictions", but is mere speculation from the author's part. For starters, Variety had done this "predictions" for years now, and they would constantly "predict" that Apple would buy Disney, pretty much giving the same reasoning as above. Again, zero basis beyond "Apple has a lot of money and they might want to spend in some studio".

Good then.

Apple wanting IP to get into streaming makes sense as a motivation, but if so they should have made a play for Fox rather than let Disney buy them out. Fox has more stuff than Sony Pictures does. Fox has The Simpsons you know, a huge syndication coup and merchandising goldmine as it is.

According to the Sony-Marvel deal, if Sony gets bought out by a third party, then Spider-Man rights go back to Marvel barring some distribution stuff...

Spider-Man is Star Wars for Sony Pictures and they'd never let it go back without a fight. And 2018 shows them, much like Spider-Man himself, getting back after being knocked down. And barring a buyout, Spider-Man will be with Sony for the forseeable future.

[Miles To Go]

Disney XD in India has been rebranded as "Marvel HQ", not sure if this is an indication of anything for the future, but it's interesting.



https://bestmediainfo.com/2019/01/di...ith-marvel-hq/

[Digifiend]

Now there's something interesting - they have BOTH Black Panther's Quest and the Future Avengers anime. Since one of the channel's four languages is English, that means the anime has been dubbed. It may well replace Assemble if there's no sixth season after BPQ.

That channel also isn't exclusively Marvel - they show Pokemon, Digimon, and Beyblade. I wonder why it launched two weeks after XD closed, instead of immediately?

[Frontier]

Disney XD in India has been rebranded as "Marvel HQ", not sure if this is an indication of anything for the future, but it's interesting.



https://bestmediainfo.com/2019/01/di...ith-marvel-hq/

Marvel HQ is Marvel's official Youtube page for all their cartoons. It's where they've been posting clips and full episodes for all their shows as of late.

Now there's something interesting - they have BOTH Black Panther's Quest and the Future Avengers anime. Since one of the channel's four languages is English, that means the anime has been dubbed. It may well replace Assemble if there's no sixth season after BPQ.

Future Avengers is dubbed. There's a dubbed episode of it on Youtube.

[Revolutionary_Jack]

Disney XD in India has been rebranded as "Marvel HQ", not sure if this is an indication of anything for the future, but it's interesting.

One of the big coups in the Disney-Fox deal is that Disney gets Star TV. Star TV is Fox's subsidiary that targets India and it opened shop in the 90s and it's program has 700 million viewers. Since China's a hard market to get into since the government wants a piece of the cut...India is the next frontier so to speak in terms of market reach and captialization. So Disney will want to find a way to target and get their products to that kind of audience.

[Digifiend]

Marvel HQ is Marvel's official Youtube page for all their cartoons. It's where they've been posting clips and full episodes for all their shows as of late.

This channel is named after it. As the article says, it replaced Disney XD India. So it's two things with the same name. The Marvel HQ online stuff, by the way, used to be Marvel Kids.