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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra_Sonic View Post
    Correction: The first one wasn't Big Boss.
    That dosn't really change the fact that he beat Big Boss

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra_Sonic View Post
    To be fair, Twin Snakes is non-canon.
    Which doesn’t really matter and still doesn't help Reacher.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra_Sonic View Post
    Correction: The first one wasn't Big Boss.
    Bigger clarification: Snake beat the 2nd man to earn the name Big Boss (Venom Snake) and then defeated the 1st Big Boss later on his career before going on to defeat Liquid Snake. That and a good dozen of elite soldiers. Oh and a few superweapons.

    ....So yeah, Reacher is screwed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron_Twister View Post
    Which doesn’t really matter and still doesn't help Reacher.



    Bigger clarification: Snake beat the 2nd man to earn the name Big Boss (Venom Snake) and then defeated the 1st Big Boss later on his career before going on to defeat Liquid Snake. That and a good dozen of elite soldiers. Oh and a few superweapons.

    ....So yeah, Reacher is screwed.
    What exactly did Venom Snake do to earn the title of Big Boss, again? I have played the entire MGSV saga, but that point still evades me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra_Sonic View Post
    What exactly did Venom Snake do to earn the title of Big Boss, again? I have played the entire MGSV saga, but that point still evades me.
    He was able to do everything BB did and no one suspected he was a phony. Damn impressive for a medic body double.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Chou Lives View Post
    He was able to do everything BB did and no one suspected he was a phony. Damn impressive for a medic body double.
    yep. it was done to fool the world that he was BB and doing this and that and other things. and he did such a good job that no one knew, save for ocelot, who was in on it all, and kaz, who told ocelot the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by master of read View Post
    yep. it was done to fool the world that he was BB and doing this and that and other things. and he did such a good job that no one knew, save for ocelot, who was in on it all, and kaz, who told ocelot the truth.
    Not to mention the real Big Boss, considered him to have an equal claim to the legend of Big Boss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra_Sonic View Post
    What exactly did Venom Snake do to earn the title of Big Boss, again? I have played the entire MGSV saga, but that point still evades me.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Chou Lives View Post
    He was able to do everything BB did and no one suspected he was a phony. Damn impressive for a medic body double.
    This. Venom Snake was skilled enough to fool the world that he's the real deal. This is enough from Big Boss himself to declare Venom the man worthy of the title Big Boss.

    Edit: got ninja'd here lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron_Twister View Post
    This. Venom Snake was skilled enough to fool the world that he's the real deal. This is enough from Big Boss himself to declare Venom the man worthy of the title Big Boss.

    Edit: got ninja'd here lol
    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastDalek View Post
    Not to mention the real Big Boss, considered him to have an equal claim to the legend of Big Boss.
    Quote Originally Posted by master of read View Post
    yep. it was done to fool the world that he was BB and doing this and that and other things. and he did such a good job that no one knew, save for ocelot, who was in on it all, and kaz, who told ocelot the truth.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Chou Lives View Post
    He was able to do everything BB did and no one suspected he was a phony. Damn impressive for a medic body double.
    Thanks. I remember now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra_Sonic View Post
    Thanks. I remember now.
    ...Kinda hard not to, as that was ultimately the point of the whole game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron_Twister View Post
    ...Kinda hard not to, as that was ultimately the point of the whole game.
    um yeah. i mean it was one of the biggest plot twists not only in the entire MGS series but in gaming in general. how could one just...........forget that part?

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    So what if this were OLD Snake?

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    Quote Originally Posted by master of read View Post
    um yeah. i mean it was one of the biggest plot twists not only in the entire MGS series but in gaming in general. how could one just...........forget that part?
    Two words.

    SHRAPNEL.

    FOREHEAD.

    I guess you could also go with

    PSYCHO

    MANTIS

    Whichever the case is, I can well believe someone played their memories like a damn fiddle.
    "What I sought, I could not obtain."

    "This is a meaningless battle. We are two madmen engaging in senseless folley."

    "I will kill, I will let live..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra_Sonic View Post
    So what if this were OLD Snake?
    still better than reacher since, you know, that whole microwave thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by master of read View Post
    still better than reacher since, you know, that whole microwave thing.
    Which could have literally cooked any typical human alive in SECONDS.

    To be fair: his OctoCamo likely protected his body from the...wait...never mind. His head was still exposed.

    After that, he did manage to not only endure a brutal fistfight with his opponent, he came out on top.

    All this, and he was physically (not chronologically) in at least his mid to late 60s...

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