You are not alone, but I've already gone into the reasons why I hate this concept extensively in other threads.
I talk up how much I miss Morrison's Superman in just about every thread I post in, for good or ill. I don't hate the Rebirth Superman anymore, but I just really dejected every time I think about it. Yeah, the likes of Escape from Dinosaur Island are cool and fun, but there is absolutely zero reason they couldn't have done that with the Superman I came to love.
Here's to the Real Steel Deal.
"You know the deal, Metropolis. Treat people right or expect a visit from me."
I don't think that Jon's presence is in any way what makes stories like Escape from Dinosaur Island cool. It's the willingness to put Superman in a bananas situation and let him do his super-thing, without the deconstruction that Pak's run of Action and almost all of Truth was built on. You could run that same story without Jon, and just have the late Superman run around Dinosaur Island with Krypto and it'd be just as good. And I'd enjoy it more for having my Superman of choice, though obviously I'm biased here.
I also maintain that if they were going to do "Superman and Son" stories, (a perfectly excellent idea, by the way) they should have done that in 2011 by bringing Chris back instead of rebooting the universe. Chris Kent was a more thematically appealing concept than Jon Kent II is at any rate, and if they'd never rebooted the universe, I'd never have known the late Superman to miss him, you know?
"You know the deal, Metropolis. Treat people right or expect a visit from me."
After Morrison's origin story the sky was the limit really. With what he wrote, the foundation he created, light-hearted and out-of-this-world stuff was ingrained, and just ripe for the taking. For various reasons they never fully capitalized. I blame a lot of it on the perpetual crossover model that still had yet to die when the New 52 got started. Some of it of course on just flat out bad writing. But more than anything else I don't think anyone was ever allowed to get a footing under them and just tell stand-alone tales for their own individual titles. Nothing was ever allowed to establish its unique feel before being sucked into an event. That sort of thing was sabotaging and killing the character even before they made the decision to sabotage then kill him for real.
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"They can be a great people Kal-El, they wish to be. They only lack the light to show the way. For this reason above all, their capacity for good, I have sent them you. My only son." - Jor-El
I'll do you one better and say they should have done it in 2006-07, after Infinite Crisis and One Year Later. That was a perfect window to advance Clark and Lois' story and introduce a kid without having to deal with Lois being pregnant. Of course, then you'd be left with a infant and not a kid old enough to wear a costume, but that can be easily fixed with a time travel story. It also would have given us a decade of Lois and Clark being married without a kid after a six year long engagement, so it would have fit the timetable too.
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~ Black Panther.
Ach, twisting my words against me, eh? True enough, but you know I meant "they could have told that type of story without the father/son theme central to the Rebirth Supes" and not literally "this story could be exactly the same if they drew Superman younger and never killed him", haha! :P
Yeah. You know, I even like most of the New 52's Superman stuff, but my love was always based in the understanding that at any moment any writer could draw on the energy, drive and feel Morrison built into the character. And for various reasons, some of which you said, nobody ever did. And now nobody ever will. Aw.
Now that you mention it- yeah, they should have. I mean, I'll never support Kal having a kid naturally over adopting one, but they wasted Chris when they had him and they could have been telling stories exactly (and I don't mean that literally now either) like they are now, kept him around instead of zoning him at the end of Last Son, and have it make a hell of a lot more sense than it does now with all the hypertime and the parallel universes. Heck, they could even keep Kon around if Chris/Jon II became "Superlad" or something like that.
I feel like Rebirth is DC's attempt to have their cake, not after eating it, but after throwing it out like ten years ago and trying out various other cakes before finally saying "you know what? That cake we had ten years ago was pretty good." But that's a stupid analogy, haha!
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"You know the deal, Metropolis. Treat people right or expect a visit from me."
Pak and Kuder tried. Lawd did they try. And even got close a few times. But each time some momentum built up, bam. Shitty crossover.Yeah. You know, I even like most of the New 52's Superman stuff, but my love was always based in the understanding that at any moment any writer could draw on the energy, drive and feel Morrison built into the character. And for various reasons, some of which you said, nobody ever did. And now nobody ever will. Aw.
"They can be a great people Kal-El, they wish to be. They only lack the light to show the way. For this reason above all, their capacity for good, I have sent them you. My only son." - Jor-El
I totally blame Pak and Yang for those crossovers.
Yeah I get your point in general and I'm still interested in adventure stories starring New 52 Superman, but especially on the topic of the different Supermen I see statements like "they could have done this story without that change" and it's not really fair because this story is that change, and something similar isn't necessarily "just as good." If the same or different creators "could have" but simply didn't want to, I'd argue that they technically "couldn't have," you know?
With regards to having an adopted kid over a natural one: I don't think having a child completes any man or woman in or outside of marriage. But we never had an indication that they didn't want a natural child, and now know clearly that they did. So really, it's something good for them and I like a large measure of happiness for my favorite characters.
Batman is a father and no one complains. Superman is a father and people complain.
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"They can be a great people Kal-El, they wish to be. They only lack the light to show the way. For this reason above all, their capacity for good, I have sent them you. My only son." - Jor-El