Has Bryan Singer finished eating his Humble Pie after X-Men Apocalypse?

[donpricetag]

XMA wasnt a failure. It didnt do top tier MCU (Avengers, Guardians, Ironman & Captain America) or even it's predecessors money, but it didn't loose money either. It costed $150 and made over $540. Yep, half a billion profit on a $150m investment... fail. Even if they poured $60m in promotion, it still made back more than twice what it costed.

[WhySoFuriousGeorge]

True. That's the reason why i think that next X men movies will be more about fun and less about drama.
This is not about what i want. I only tried to think from the Fox point of view.

It makes sense, but I think that still oversimplifies matters. X-Men =/= Deadpool and I don't think Fox is just going to shift the next X-Men film to be more like Deadpool just because it had a bigger box office return. What worked for Deadpool does not guarantee it'll work for the X-Men. And besides, Deadpool is supposed to be humorous and fun and vulgar, and most people (especially his fans) knew that going into the theatre.

[donpricetag]

It makes sense, but I think that still oversimplifies matters. X-Men =/= Deadpool and I don't think Fox is just going to shift the next X-Men film to be more like Deadpool just because it had a bigger box office return. What worked for Deadpool does not guarantee it'll work for the X-Men. And besides, Deadpool is supposed to be humorous and fun and vulgar, and most people (especially his fans) knew that going into the theatre.

Doubtfull. Deadpool is the highest grossing rated R film of all time. Fox won't make a mainstream X-Men movie rated-R any time soon because they still want it to be somewhat kid friendly. A movie a couple parents wont see a problem taking their two plus children to (thus paying $6-$8 each on top of the adult prices). However, it does make it possible to see solos and side team movies like Wolverine (Logan) and maybe even X-Force rated-R. But depending on the cast for XFO and what it'll be tackling, I doubt it. Its a fact, PG-13 movies make more than rated-R movies. Deadpool is the exception, not the standard. What helped Deadpool out by a couple hundred thousand was opening weekend. A lot of folk took their kids to see it... they may not do that again. The sequel may do the same, or perhaps a little less. But whats a little less than a billion?

[Xelossik]

WhySoFuriousGeorge :

What worked for Deadpool does not guarantee it'll work for the X-Men.

I agree.

And besides, Deadpool is supposed to be humorous and fun and vulgar, and most people (especially his fans) knew that going into the theatre.

Humorous super movies have better box office results. This is not only Deadpool but MCU movies as well.

superhero movies are supposed to be fun (looking at box office).

XMA as standalone movie look very good (box office) but what if we compare this with Deadpool? It looks weaker.

[ChildOfTheAtom]

It costed $150 and made over $540. Yep, half a billion profit on a $150m investment... fail. Even if they poured $60m in promotion, it still made back more than twice what it costed.

No it didn't. FoX only kept 25% of the Chinese portion which was the majority of the revenue outside America. And they didn't keep 100% of the other foreign markets either. + Factor what Marvel takes from them as well.


X-Men: Apocalypse is the lowest performing comic book movie of 2016 both in total gross and opening weekend. It's the 7th lowest of the entire X-Men franchise. It's the 25th lowest of any movie with Marvel characters. 40th lowest of any comic book movie.


X-Men is trending in the wrong direction.

[dragonmp93]

No it didn't. FoX only kept 25% of the Chinese portion. And they didn't keep 100% of the other foreign markets either. + Factor what Marvel takes from them as well.

I doubt that DisMarvel gets much money from those movies.

[ChildOfTheAtom]

I doubt that DisMarvel gets much money from those movies.

Not much but it's a lot when the movie didn't make much compared to every other CBM in 2016.

Marvel got 16m for Deadpool so it's less on Apocalypse obviously because it didn'take that much. But even if its 10m that's still a nice amount


FoX didn't make this movie so it could do worse than DoFP.

I mean every single CBM this year did at least 300m domestic except X-Men. Shit they all did 100m opening weekend too except X-Men obviously. it's time to give the franchise to somebody else fox was so embarrassed they pulled the film after just 9 weeks.

Deadpool saved FoX ass this year

[BishopsJuice91]

Yes he has, he's just staying around because of past success and it's guaranteed work...

[Indigo_Lady]

I don't really care for Brian Singer's vision of the X-Men. Enough already of the Xavier/Magneto and Mystique. That has been done to death!!! Tell the story of Jean, Scott, Storm and the rest.

Although I liked the opening scene of X2, I never much liked his treatment of Kurt either. For me if someone else takes over, good riddance.

[LocoSteve]

I thought X3 was better than Apocalypse. I actually felt something when Dark Phoenix went crazy on Charles. I felt nothing when Jean went Phoenix on Apocalypse. X3 also gave us the best Storm of the entire franchise(which is still not saying much). Best Beast and Angel, too. Moira too, for that matter. X3 definitely had a lot of problems(too many storylines, too many mutants, washed out Phoenix), but they pale in comparison to Apocalypse's problems.

I disagree. I felt nothing when Dark Phoenix went crazy on Charles, Halle Berry Storm was awful all around, Best was great...but Angel, and X3 Moira were forgettable. There was nothing about X3 that I though was good or decent except for Beast and the golden bridge scene.

[cc008]

I don't really care for Brian Singer's vision of the X-Men. Enough already of the Xavier/Magneto and Mystique. That has been done to death!!! Tell the story of Jean, Scott, Storm and the rest.

Although I liked the opening scene of X2, I never much liked his treatment of Kurt either. For me if someone else takes over, good riddance.

Well that's what Apocalypse was supposed to do. Conclude one trilogy and kickstart another.

[Dupe1979]

X3 was better. the film flowed better and I felt the performances were better as well.

The film flowed only downward around a porcelain bowl. Apocalypse exceeds X3 by a mile.

[spirit2011]

How about Fox tried to make the X-films into the MCU without the right architect to make it work? ANd while the MCU films are alot more...light at times than the more serious X-films, they also are able to go into different tones and story ideas.

If Fox wants the films to succeed, they need to back off and let a vision/idea person and some good editors step up and progress things.

exactly, they need a unifying vision to plan what they want from x-men universe. x-men is all over the place

[donpricetag]

No it didn't. FoX only kept 25% of the Chinese portion which was the majority of the revenue outside America. And they didn't keep 100% of the other foreign markets either. + Factor what Marvel takes from them as well.


X-Men: Apocalypse is the lowest performing comic book movie of 2016 both in total gross and opening weekend. It's the 7th lowest of the entire X-Men franchise. It's the 25th lowest of any movie with Marvel characters. 40th lowest of any comic book movie.


X-Men is trending in the wrong direction.

So the movie didn't do as well financially for the studio. It still made money. Thats not the franchises fault, its the studio's bad deal with their foreign markets... They put a movie out there expecting to recover their investment on a 25% return to a very large segment of their market? That's absurd.

[WeaponX]

Wrong spot