Examples of Pre-Flashpoint Canon Reasserting Itself in the DC Universe

[Sacred Knight]

Both characters work with them. Both characters work without them. There is no costume that the fundamental concept working or not revolves around whether or not trunks are part of the design. This has been objectively proven by now in tangible practice. The only question is what does the individual prefer, and what do the creators working on said characters at the time prefer.

[Bored at 3:00AM]

Both characters work with them. Both characters work without them. There is no costume that the fundamental concept working or not revolves around whether or not trunks are part of the design. This has been objectively proven by now in tangible practice. The only question is what does the individual prefer, and what do the creators working on said characters at the time prefer.

Pretty much. I can understand preferring one or the other, but the notion that the costume simply doesn't work without the trunks is demonstrably not true.

[Midnighter]

So this has basically become the all encompassing DCU fashion thread then huh?

[byrd156]

So this has basically become the all encompassing DCU fashion thread then huh?

It gets people talking.

[Buried Alien]

Anybody want to support Dick Grayson and Jason Todd having spent their Robin careers in the green undies, pixie boots, and bright yellow cape?

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

[byrd156]

Anybody want to support Dick Grayson and Jason Todd having spent their Robin careers in the green undies, pixie boots, and bright yellow cape?

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

I'm all for it.

[Buried Alien]

I'm all for it.

So am I. I have no fetish for green undies, but I have never been a fan of historical revisionism. If people don't want any Robins sporting green undies from this point forward...that's one thing, but retroactively pretending fifty years of history didn't happen...no.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

[byrd156]

So am I. I have no fetish for green undies, but I have never been a fan of historical revisionism. If people don't want any Robins sporting green undies from this point forward...that's one thing, but retroactively pretending fifty years of history didn't happen...no.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

I personally never really saw them as something Jason would wear. Dick rocked the hell out it, he came from the circus and is a performer at heart. The costume is all his and he should never have any shame in it. Why would he? He's THEE sidekick and it's iconic as hell. I love this costume so much.



If he had to have a costume with pants I would honestly go with the old Earth-2 Robin costume with the yellow legs. I always loved the unconnected utility belt, it just looked cool. There was another redesign of that costume used for Batman: Noel that I really like, it kept the pixie boots but had the yellow pants and alomst a chainmail look to the arms.

[justinslot]

Speaking of DC fashion: is there a database out there of all the different Legion costumes? I don't think there's another group of significant characters with more changes to their looks than the Legion.

[Clark_Kent]

Pretty much. I can understand preferring one or the other, but the notion that the costume simply doesn't work without the trunks is demonstrably not true.

An all blue suit that I think is extremely underrated & hardly ever see mentioned is the Smallville Season 11 suit. The design with the 2-tone blue was pretty slick, and made up for any "giant blue condom" or "giant blueberry" critiques, in my opinion.

[Frontier]

I think that Rebirth suit is alright but man that JL Action suit hurts my eyes. Certain art styles can make the Rebirth suit look good but I don't think it works in Action.

Ah, I loved the JLA look. But different strokes I guess .

Anybody want to support Dick Grayson and Jason Todd having spent their Robin careers in the green undies, pixie boots, and bright yellow cape?

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

I mean, DC seems doggedly determined to keep the New 52 Robin suit despite the negative opinions regarding it, so compared to that I would take the classic Robin suit back .

[phantom1592]

So am I. I have no fetish for green undies, but I have never been a fan of historical revisionism. If people don't want any Robins sporting green undies from this point forward...that's one thing, but retroactively pretending fifty years of history didn't happen...no.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

Absolutely and for the reasons you just stated. It's history. It happened. If you pretend they never wore those costumes... now you're to the point where NONE of their stories are in continuity and early Robins have NO legitimate history.

Change them going forward... not backward. Actually, I think Damian should put on the pixie boots. may teach him some humility :P


On a separate note, one of the most lasting changes and important milestones that Tim Drake had was that he was the first to wear the 'new' costume and escape all the history attached to the original... Seeing Dick or Jason with the black/Yellow cape REALLY steals that milestone from Tim. That bugged me all the way back in the Batman animated series.

[Bored at 3:00AM]

So am I. I have no fetish for green undies, but I have never been a fan of historical revisionism. If people don't want any Robins sporting green undies from this point forward...that's one thing, but retroactively pretending fifty years of history didn't happen...no.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

I am of the same mind.

I think the problem stems from the corners of Bat-fandom that have convinced themselves that the concept of Batman is actually realistic and not completely nuts and more implausible than an alien from space flying around with an "S" on his chest

The idea of their hero also running around with an underage boy in a totally impractical and unsafe costume lays bare how silly this notion is, so a lot of Bat-fans want to erase it entirely. Some don't even like the concept of Robin himself, even though he was added to the comic by Batman's own creator less than a year after Batman first appeared and been a staple ever since.

[Frontier]

Most people probably assume Dick was running around in Tim's Robin costume anyways, since that look is predominantly what's used in media adaptions .

[byrd156]

Most people probably assume Dick was running around in Tim's Robin costume anyways, since that look is predominantly what's used in media adaptions .

That or some variation of the black and red costume. I sometimes see people get that wrong online even though Dick only wore that in YJ.