Netflix Daredevil replaces Netflix Luke Cage

[The Overlord]

What would happen if Netflix DD replaced Netflix Luke Cage as the hero of Harlem?

[Kusanagi]

He can certainly do the crime fighting job in taking down Cottonmouth and Mariah, but winning over the public to his side is going to be difficult. White vigilante beating on 'respectable' members of the community is going to be a tough sell.

[MindofShadow]

Diamondback likely doesnt show up without the cage rivalry

[BCaeser1]

Diamondback likely doesnt show up without the cage rivalry

Agreed. Daredevil is more than capable of getting the job done. More guns, drugs and thugs, which is standard fare for DD.

[Kusanagi]

Diamondback likely doesnt show up without the cage rivalry

He might still show up, remember he was still gun running before Cage showed, but it wouldn't be personal. More DD's eating into my profits too much.

[Iron Fist]

Diamondback likely doesnt show up without the cage rivalry

That's a great point.

He can certainly do the crime fighting job in taking down Cottonmouth and Mariah, but winning over the public to his side is going to be difficult. White vigilante beating on 'respectable' members of the community is going to be a tough sell.

I don't think this is true, DD S2 shows the public really respect and celebrate him. We even saw parts of it in season 1, Claire's entire involvement with heroes is because people who DD saved told her of the good he does.

[Twickster]

Strange thing is, DD cleans house. Cottonmouth, Black Mariah and even Diamondback are nothing new to DD, and unlike Cage, DD excels in taking out threats with surgical precision. MCU's Batman, as it were. The regular tactic of drivebye's and even Diamondback's special bullets mean essentially nothing to DD, in that they don't even have the chance of being even used.

The only real threat to DD is Diamondback's suit, and I'd like to think Matt is smart enough to run away, then strike at Diamondback when he isn't wearing it.

Also, as he's already a vigilante and not a public figure, I don't think it matters to him what the public thinks. He'll take them down regardless.

[MindofShadow]

It would be a totally different show

DD doesnt come out during the day

And DD isnt getting to ft knox rec center either. Hed die

[I_Am_Groot]

The only real threat to DD is Diamondback's suit, and I'd like to think Matt is smart enough to run away, then strike at Diamondback when he isn't wearing it.

The suit has one glaring flaw, it left the neck and mouth exposed. DD could toss his baton at Diamondback's throat.

[Twickster]

And DD isnt getting to ft knox rec center either. Hed die

DD totally can. Mostly by ninjaing and avoiding fights, as he does. Of course, if he goes in like Luke did he'd die. But he won't do that.

[Captain Morgan]

Most of the crime Cage was dealing with was going on in broad daylight, wasn't it? Not really Matt's forte there. I'm not saying he couldn't adapt, but I'm struggling to picture how he'd handle the sort of issues Cage dealt with. I don't know that many of the criminals would warrant the sort of savage beatings Matt usually dishes out-- certainly I don't think he would be as accepted by the local community for doing it.

[Kusanagi]

That's a great point.



I don't think this is true, DD S2 shows the public really respect and celebrate him. We even saw parts of it in season 1, Claire's entire involvement with heroes is because people who DD saved told her of the good he does.

Different communities, Matt actually was a part of the Hell's Kitchen community he is decidedly not part of Harlem's community. Luke was treated as an outsider when he fist came, Matt would have it harder.

[Twickster]

And for various reasons, DD doesn't really *need* to be part of the community in order to function. His intelligence gathering is second to none, negating the need for local contacts and connections. He could simply set up shop and start beating down goons left and right. The community does not have to like him.

[Captain Morgan]

But what will he accomplish exactly? Cage was plenty capable of beating down goons. He just usually didn't bother because it would be pointless violence. Cottonmouth and his ilk were considered a part of the community, and had their own honor code.

Matt reserved his beatings for the worst scum of New York. We are talking human trafficking level bad. Cottonmouth may not have had a Fisk sized operation, but he wasn't exactly Fisk level evil either. Sure, Matt will be more willing to work with the system to try and keep people behind bars than Luke was, but Matt can't even keep Turk in jail, despite the latter being caught selling girls into sex slavery in episode 1. I'm skeptical of him suddenly being able to keep an entire city full of criminals behind bars.

And let's say he does decide to just beat people and terrify the community. Some crazy white dude beating up the charismatic owner of the best club in town or a beloved city council woman isn't going to make people trust the system more. It's not going to make people testify in court, and if it did it would be thrown out anyway. Luke was an effective hero for Harlem because he did what he did in the day light, and as such was able to get the community to move away from its corrupt leaders. Matt can't do that. Nor will beating up random drug dealers fix the income or education gap in Harlem that causes people to become drug dealers.

And again, Matt isn't bloodlusted here. He's not going to be able to live with himself if he begins a crusade to put every person who has a gun in Harlem into traction. That's actually a really fucked up suggestion.

[MindofShadow]

DD totally can. Mostly by ninjaing and avoiding fights, as he does. Of course, if he goes in like Luke did he'd die. But he won't do that.

Not only were there a shit load of people in there, but there was also multiple doors he can't kick though and lots and lots and lots of guns in a closed space.

He is going to have a HELL of a time getting in there.

And for various reasons, DD doesn't really *need* to be part of the community in order to function. His intelligence gathering is second to none, negating the need for local contacts and connections. He could simply set up shop and start beating down goons left and right. The community does not have to like him.

And when these same goons go out and start busting heads in the middle of the day? What is DD going to do now?

Especially when the goons do it and say, "blame daredevil" like they did to Cage? The public started to turn on Cage... they would turn even faster on a white dude dressing up like the devil.

Matt the Lawyer may have more success taking down CM/Mariah than Daredevil. But even then... he isn't a prosecutor.

CM and Mariah aren't hiding. Mariah has political pull. This is a totally different situation than Fisk and the Hand.