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    Default Why is Attilan accepted but Krakoa is not?

    Just trying to get people's thoughts on this regarding Marvel-verse. I'm not aware of any major opposition by countries of the world to the Attilan's existence as a nation for Inhumans but the establishment of Krakoa is being seen as a threat. Why does Attilan work not Krakoa does not?

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    Well, it is a disconnect, there is no real question ot debate there.

    I guess the real issue might be how the mutants are offering wonder drugs and amassing an army of "formerly" evil mutants, while the Inhumans just sort of wanted their own little place near a major US city.

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    The inhumand Push was the lamest Editorial attempt to replace x-men when fox was still holding movie rights

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosebunse View Post
    Well, it is a disconnect, there is no real question ot debate there.

    I guess the real issue might be how the mutants are offering wonder drugs and amassing an army of "formerly" evil mutants, while the Inhumans just sort of wanted their own little place near a major US city.
    at least the mutants are engaging in trade. the inhumans released a life-altering cloud on the human populace. and Maximus is just as "evil" as any of the "evil" mutants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Watkins View Post
    at least the mutants are engaging in trade. the inhumans released a life-altering cloud on the human populace. and Maximus is just as "evil" as any of the "evil" mutants.
    I'll give you that, but how many Inhuman bad guys are there compared to mutant ones? There's really no comparison.

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    The Inhumans were never a real threat to humans. There could not be a future in which the inhumans replaced humans.

    They had no reason to fear them, they were just one more oddity like Atlantis.

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    It wasn't? Attilan had to do some pretty shady shit to keep everyone off their backs, everyone in the beginning was gunning after them, and they made plenty of human enemies.

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    Attilan was, for most of its existence, an isolated, secret society. It didn't war with the human world. It didn't interact with the human world much at all. Its exposure to the human world was basically "here's this isolated nation that's been there all along; we just didn't know about it."

    Krakoa consists of people who grew up in human societies rejecting those societies and forming their own. First, it's a rejection of human civilization. Second, it's artificial--mutants aren't a lost tribe who've been living off on their own all along. Third, Krakoa's leadership includes genocidal mass murderers (i.e. Apocalypse) as well as people the human world regards as murderous terrorists (i.e. Magneto, Exodus).

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    cause editorial wanted to push them into a higher status, but then it all went how it went

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    Do you mean in-universe or out of universe?

    In-universe Attilan wasn't known to most people until recently, but even then they were just a secret city that kept to themselves. They had been around for a long time without causing any major global problems and largely didn't interact with the rest of the world at all. At least until the gas cloud, which brought a ton of problems and made a lot of enemies among humans. Still, there were never that many Inhumans and they never displayed any desire to spread their influence through economic or violent means. So they were easy for most people to just ignore.

    Krakoa suddenly appeared and declared the future belonged to them, and they were buying people's respect and legitimacy with drugs. Half their government is made up of known terrorists with massive bodycounts between them. A lot of humans were already wary of mutants, and now they're all working behind this one tiny island and are explicitly trying to increase their power and prestige.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raidensix View Post
    Just trying to get people's thoughts on this regarding Marvel-verse. I'm not aware of any major opposition by countries of the world to the Attilan's existence as a nation for Inhumans but the establishment of Krakoa is being seen as a threat. Why does Attilan work not Krakoa does not?
    It's because Attilan and the Inhumans in general want to serve society. They think consider it their royal duty. Whereas the X-Men on Krakoa think that humans and society should serve them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosebunse View Post
    I'll give you that, but how many Inhuman bad guys are there compared to mutant ones? There's really no comparison.
    we rarely saw inhumans outside of the royal family for decades. if you average it out, Maximus, Lash, Maelstrom, Lineage, the Shredded Man, the Dark Riders, and the Unspoken have done just as much damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FUBAR007 View Post
    Attilan was, for most of its existence, an isolated, secret society. It didn't war with the human world. It didn't interact with the human world much at all. Its exposure to the human world was basically "here's this isolated nation that's been there all along; we just didn't know about it."

    Krakoa consists of people who grew up in human societies rejecting those societies and forming their own. First, it's a rejection of human civilization. Second, it's artificial--mutants aren't a lost tribe who've been living off on their own all along. Third, Krakoa's leadership includes genocidal mass murderers (i.e. Apocalypse) as well as people the human world regards as murderous terrorists (i.e. Magneto, Exodus).
    the humans rejected them, imo.

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    If not long ago, Marvel touted the Inhuman series plan succeeded, and FOX not acquired by Disney... Now in a lot of books, it's probably Attilan who plays the role of the power against human.
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    At a wager, it’s because for the most part Attilan and the other Inhuman tribes were in hiding but for exiles, adventurers and nomads. The first time it revealed itself it got besieged by the Russians and Portugese and faked their deaths.

    After Black Bolt had the bright idea to virtually eradicate the existing Inhuman civilisation to play god, New Attilan and Ennilux got their recognition by the implicit threat of a much-weakened Black Bolt destroying whoever would dare them (and unlike Scott, BB is too twisted to try be the better man) and by removing the newly activated Inhumans to New Attilan (between that and the high mortality rate, no one could say the Inhumans would replace baselines). Notice what happened to the Inhumans (in-universe) the second the personal might of the Royals wasn’t protecting them.

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