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    Default Is Black Cat stronger and faster than Spider-man in the cartoon show and comics?

    These photos got me thinking.



    She does look stronger (lots of bigger muscles) and more fit than spider man! So, Is Black Cat Stronger and faster than Spider-man in the cartoon show?

    And with mechanical enhancements and /or some sort of medical procedure in the comics. Is black cat faster, stronger, and more agile than Spider-Man in the comics?


    In the cartoon episode. She actually starts to thrown him around right after they meet after she been enhanced by the king pin and actually says she wants to see if she stronger and faster than her. She does look like she faster and stronger than Spider Man and from his reaction in the cartoon series!

    In the comics did spider-man and black cat every try to see who the stronger or faster one is?



    What wiki says about her abilities:

    How accurate is this version here?


    Initially, the Black Cat had no superhuman abilities. Later, a test induced by the Kingpin gave her the psionic ability to affect probability fields; essentially, she could produce "bad luck" for her enemies.[61] The "bad luck" power entails that under stress she is subconsciously able to cause anyone in her immediate vicinity that she perceives as a threat to be susceptible to freak accidents, like guns jamming and exploding, or tripping on objects. This ability also had the side effect of eventually causing problems for anyone spending long periods of time around her.

    Doctor Strange eventually tampered with her powers that briefly removed her bad luck abilities, along with the unwanted side effect. However, this magical tampering temporarily endowed her with cat-like abilities, giving her night vision, retractable talons in her fingertips, superhuman speed, strength, agility and endurance, proportionate to a cat.[62] Her "bad luck" powers were eventually restored by Doc Tramma through the use of cybernetics.[63]

    The Black Cat has reflexes, agility, and stamina of an Olympic level acrobat. She is physically very strong and athletic and has great physical endurance. She is an excellent street fighter capable of taking on several armed assailants and incapacitating them without being injured herself. She is trained in several martial arts styles.

    The Black Cat has also acquired several devices from the Tinkerer that increase her agility and heighten her strength. She wears earrings that interact with the balance centers of her brain to grant her enhanced agility. She has contact lenses that let her see in various ranges of the electromagnetic spectrum, such as infrared and ultraviolet. Her costume contains micro-servos that enhance her strength above normal human levels. The gloves of her costume contain steel micro-filaments, which form retractable claws at the fingertips when she flexes her fingers (triggering a magnetic surge which condenses the filaments into polarized talons) which enable her to tear through most surfaces and easily scale walls. Using this equipment, the Black Cat has been able to beat enemies who have superhuman abilities.

    The Black Cat has a miniature grappling hook device hidden in the "fur" of each glove, designed by her father Walter Hardy, which enables her to swing from buildings in a manner similar to Spider-Man, though not quite as fast. She can also use the cable from this device as a tightrope, wall scaling device, swing line, or as a weapon in combat.
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    Spider-Man is way stronger and faster than Black Cat. He never had any issues catching her when he needed to. The only time she was able to stay ahead was when she was rigging the area. I don't think muscle tone really says much. Just look at Kingpin. He's way bigger than Peter and their strength couldn't have been further apart. Spidey is someone who could casually lift tanks and toss them without much effort.

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    Last I check 10 tons was Spider-Man strength level. Now it may be 75 tons.

    https://thespidermanfiles.wordpress....uper-strength/

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    I believe you're referring to the 90s animated series where Black Cat derived her abilities from a recreation of the Super-Soldier Serum that her father was forced to give to the Kingpin in exchange for Felicia's life, only for the Kingpin to test the replicated formula on Felicia herself, thus transforming her into the Black Cat. As a beneficiary of the Super-Soldier Serum, the 90s animated series version of the Black Cat was at if not over the very peak of human physical ability and performance in regards to strength, speed, agility, reflexes, and stamina, hence her more visibly defined muscles compared to most other versions of her.
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    You are 100% correct, sir.

    Quote Originally Posted by Huntsman Spider View Post
    I believe you're referring to the 90s animated series where Black Cat derived her abilities from a recreation of the Super-Soldier Serum that her father was forced to give to the Kingpin in exchange for Felicia's life, only for the Kingpin to test the replicated formula on Felicia herself, thus transforming her into the Black Cat. As a beneficiary of the Super-Soldier Serum, the 90s animated series version of the Black Cat was at if not over the very peak of human physical ability and performance in regards to strength, speed, agility, reflexes, and stamina, hence her more visibly defined muscles compared to most other versions of her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwhh View Post
    You are 100% correct, sir.
    All right, then, thanks. That link from The Spider-Man Files was good, too. Never actually saw/read the comic where he blitzed Eric Masterson/Thor, so thanks for that, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntsman Spider View Post
    I believe you're referring to the 90s animated series where Black Cat derived her abilities from a recreation of the Super-Soldier Serum that her father was forced to give to the Kingpin in exchange for Felicia's life, only for the Kingpin to test the replicated formula on Felicia herself, thus transforming her into the Black Cat. As a beneficiary of the Super-Soldier Serum, the 90s animated series version of the Black Cat was at if not over the very peak of human physical ability and performance in regards to strength, speed, agility, reflexes, and stamina, hence her more visibly defined muscles compared to most other versions of her.
    This all based on Tigra's origins as The Cat...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwhh View Post
    Thanks for sharing. Bringing back fond memories here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darthfury78 View Post
    This all based on Tigra's origins as The Cat...
    Oh, yeah. I remember that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gwhh View Post
    Last I check 10 tons was Spider-Man strength level. Now it may be 75 tons.

    https://thespidermanfiles.wordpress....uper-strength/


    Peter Parker is nowhere near "Class 75" strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZNOP View Post


    Peter Parker is nowhere near "Class 75" strength.
    No, definitely not, though he does punch above his weight class an awful lot, so it's understandable if people doubt he's just a 10-tonner. If we had to take out the old Handbooks that say Class 10 Strength confers the ability to lift 10 tons maximum and at least more than 2 tons and Class 25 Strength confers the ability to lift 10 tons minimum and 25 tons maximum, I'd say Spider-Man is nowadays closer to Class 25 than Class 10, judging by some or many of the strength feats he's pulled off.
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    On a side note, I forgot just how ripped Felicia was in that cartoon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gwhh View Post
    These photos got me thinking.



    She does look stronger (lots of bigger muscles) and more fit than spider man! So, Is Black Cat Stronger and faster than Spider-man in the cartoon show?
    Black Cat is very fit for a puny human.
    Spider-Man has a whole bunch superpowers and can use a car as a melee weapon even if he has never seen the inside of a gym.

    Mucles and fitness doesn't come into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    Black Cat is very fit for a puny human.
    Spider-Man has a whole bunch superpowers and can use a car as a melee weapon even if he has never seen the inside of a gym.

    Mucles and fitness doesn't come into it.
    It does when the muscles and fitness, in this continuity, are the result of Felicia Hardy having a recreation of the Super-Soldier Serum forcibly tested on her at the behest of the Kingpin to ensure it works. She is roughly strong and fast enough, along with her father the original Cat's training in combat and stealth, to keep up with Spider-Man in the 90s cartoon. But then, the 90s cartoon is a different beast from the comics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntsman Spider View Post
    It does when the muscles and fitness, in this continuity, are the result of Felicia Hardy having a recreation of the Super-Soldier Serum forcibly tested on her at the behest of the Kingpin to ensure it works. She is roughly strong and fast enough, along with her father the original Cat's training in combat and stealth, to keep up with Spider-Man in the 90s cartoon. But then, the 90s cartoon is a different beast from the comics.
    And she was also more of a straight-up Superhero in the 90's cartoon than a cat burglar, hence more emphasis on her strength and putting her on some skill equivalent with Spider-Man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    And she was also more of a straight-up Superhero in the 90's cartoon than a cat burglar, hence more emphasis on her strength and putting her on some skill equivalent with Spider-Man.
    Yep, she only stole once and that was under duress from the Kingpin, wanting to see that the Super-Soldier Serum and her father's training had actually paid off. Afterwards, she took the first opportunity to get away from him and get Spider-Man to help her rescue her father and stop the Kingpin, then worked hard on becoming a superhero in spite of an uncharacteristically bitter and angry Spider-Man (still hurting over the loss of Mary Jane in the previous season's finale) trying to dissuade her at first.
    The spider is always on the hunt.

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