Death of X #4 spoilery spoiler thread - IDEAS NEVER DIE

[somacula]

I'm gonna put the gist of it (like hell, I'm gonna put most of it)

-Magneto blocks crystal and company from stopping cyclops
-The Cuckoos distract Medusa and black bolt team from stopping Alchemy and sunfire
-Alchemy with the help of sunfire changes the terrigen cloud into a red substance that's non lethal to humans, mutants and Inhumans but the kid dies from M pox
-Cyclops goes to confront Medusa it goes something like this

Medusa : You've made us enemies forever
Cyclops : your people started it with the cloud
Medusa : That's not how it happened
Cyclops : What matters is wich one is believed

- Cyclops says "IDEAS NEVER DIE"
-Black bolt kills him with his sonic scream in front of the all new inhumans, uncanny X men, EXM, Tyke, etc...
-One week later Cyclops is buried in muir Island
-Storm gives the eulogy honouring cyclops life as a hero and warrior
-Emma explains that x men and Inhumans have reached a truce
-Magik took some random inhuman to limbo, and she probably knows what really happened
-Alex tells Emma that's impossible for Cyclops to die like that (suicide by black bolt)
-Emma takes havok to a chamber were Cyclops body is stored
-She explains that Cyclops died in issue #1 by M pox
-Emma says that she turned cyclops into an idea and IDEAS NEVER DIE, it looks like she is going crazy



Gist :
Even with what happened here there's no logical explanation for Cyclops being considered Hitler, the worst villain ever or the rest of the world and the X men hating him... There's no collateral damage or mass deaths... Nice job X editors

Also... Don't forget that IDEAS NEVER DIE







Farewell theme

Scott Summers
1963 - 2016

Teacher of the young , father of many, loving husband, ruthless warrior, faithful soldier, protector of the weak but more importantly HERO of MUTANTKIND
May he rest in peace and his ideas and legacy be carried by those who succeed him


Strawpull about your reaction to Cyclops death

http://www.strawpoll.me/11720347

[vasir12]

This mini was terrible from start to finish. Here, I thought the gas would back fire into something deadly, but nope.

[Captain Nash]

Yeah, this was pretty lackluster. and the big twist (that it was not Scott but Emma doing all of that, though it was split it he was dead or just incapacitated) is something that so many people saw coming.

I knew though, based off of where they left it at the end of issue 3, the only way it was coming to come off that "cyclops" was the second coming of Hitler was if the cloud was changed and accidentially destroyed Madrid, killing it's million-ish inhabitants. That was really the only way that was going to work and they didn't even come close to doing that. They made the cloud completely non-toxic.

There is nothing here that justifies the hate the world has for Cyclops at all. Sure I could understand the Inhumans themselves being enraged at his actions, but the world, and the other X-Men as well? No. And from Storm to go from saying what she says in honor of him at his funeral to what I've come to understand she says in EXM (I haven't read, the only thing I read is UXM now and this) makes absolutely no sense at all.

"Cyclops" sacrificed everything including his "life" to stop this thing in a non-threatening manner and all that's given in return is hate.

I give it a 2/10 and that's just for the artwork. Which is quite pretty.


FWIW on the poll I voted "Cyclops did absolutely nothing wrong" and "I Can't wait for Resurrexion" I may even pick up both the blue and gold books if the casts are decent.

[somacula]

The worst part is that is Lemire that probably wrote most of this

[Hariel0079]

The worst part is that is Lemire that probably wrote most of this

He did, why do you think Illyana stands out the most throughout the mini?

It's the same transparency that's been given in EXM.

Why do you think Storm is portrayed the way she is in both EXM and DoX?

[Wiccan]

Er... Right, but why is Cyclops evil after all? On the funeral Storm seems like she's actually talking good stuff about him??? And then in EXM she suddenly hates him for no reason??? Damn, the changing the mist plot was like SO EASY to twist it against him and they just... didn't. Just say he made it kill other people instead, but without meaning it. That way people can see him as super evil even if he actually wasn't.
At least the Emma twist was good. I know everyone already saw it coming but I still like it.

[MosSuperman]

Needless death?

You make it sound like this lie could've saved millions of lives if Emma hadn't deceived almost everyone.

[Hariel0079]

Needless death?

You make it sound like this lie could've saved millions of lives if Emma hadn't deceived almost everyone.

......Please eloborate. Cause you make it sound this was a necessity?

DoX was a crappy mini but the points were clear. Scott didn't do anything but things couldve been solved without the fight THAT much was clear. Emma is acting out for herself cause she found one person who cared for her or at least seem to.

[Namor'sWrath]

Haven't people been saying that Cyclops killed Inhumans in-universe? The only characters that died at all in this were mutants. The Inhumans came off looking pretty terrible in this, IMO.

[somacula]

Added a poll, if anyone wants more poll options lemme know

[Namor'sWrath]

Beast has a lot of fucking nerve showing up at the funeral.

[WallStreeter]

Haven't people been saying that Cyclops killed Inhumans in-universe? The only characters that died at all in this were mutants. The Inhumans came off looking pretty terrible in this, IMO.

I think editorial decided they didn't want to destroy Cyclops as a hero after all, and after they are relaunching the X-Men for Resurrexion, they want the X-Men to be the heroes. Makes a good story for the X-Men, instead of their main enemy being humans or the Avengers, it's an oppressive royal family that rules another superpowered species.

[paurru]

I have all 4 issues of the Death of X comic and I think it ended well and right with issue 4.


Spoilers alert in case.




Alchemy Im still surprised they brought him back

[Anduinel]

I feel like there must be some vital info missing here, because this so does not live up to the hype. Just what did "Cyclops" do that was so terrible then? Inconvenience baselines who wanted to become NuHumans? I can see why the Inhumans would still be upset with him, but seriously? This is what Cyke did that "doomed" the mutant race? Let folks know the T-Mist was deadly and got rid of half of it? That would MAYBE make sense if Storm & Co. had been lamenting the fact that he couldn't stop both clouds, but writers have made it sound like he was the reason for the latest attempts at mutant genocide. TBH, from all the fuss we've had across multiple titles -- X-Books and otherwise -- it feels like Lemire had something much worse planned for Cyke, then someone stepped in and told him to tone it down when it came time for the reveal.

[Hariel0079]

I feel like there must be some vital info missing here, because this so does not live up to the hype. Just what did "Cyclops" do that was so terrible then? Inconvenience baselines who wanted to become NuHumans? I can see why the Inhumans would still be upset with him, but seriously? This is what Cyke did that "doomed" the mutant race? Let folks know the T-Mist was deadly and got rid of half of it? That would MAYBE make sense if Storm & Co. had been lamenting the fact that he couldn't stop both clouds, but writers have made it sound like he was the reason for the latest attempts at mutant genocide. TBH, from all the fuss we've had across multiple titles -- X-Books and otherwise -- it feels like Lemire had something much worse planned for Cyke, then someone stepped in and told him to tone it down when it came time for the reveal.

It still wouldn't.

All I'm getting out this mini is this:

Scott collapsed and Died, Emma jumped do to her obsessive love, Hence we had the TP projection to the world of inciting accusations without full conclusive evidence that this was premeditated attack on mutant kind. (The deal that makes Cyclops so damning)

Emma used TP projection to lie to everyone except a save few who found out, and To species practically went to war all under this lie.