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    Is there any Inhuman that can match Iceman? Like an actual mad and unleashed Iceman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoCoBandz View Post
    Is there any Inhuman that can match Iceman? Like an actual mad and unleashed Iceman?
    Honestly, no person should really be able to match an omega level.

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    CoCoBandz :
    Is there any Inhuman that can match Iceman? Like an actual mad and unleashed Iceman?
    Reader should beat Iceman without any problems.

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    Is there no Inhuman who has a power, admittedly not as strong as Iceman, but by the nature of their power would hold an advantage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vasir12 View Post
    Honestly, no person should really be able to match an omega level.
    The problem with Bobby is that hes always been inconsistent with how he uses his power. He's never been as serious as other xmen. Storms not an omega mutant but she's often had more impressive feats than Booby even though hes been an xman for longer. I'm not sure how much a threat Iceman will be but who knows. With him getting a solo book, maybe he'll do something impressive. However, his track record says otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xelossik View Post
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    Reader should beat Iceman without any problems.
    His best ability would only work if Bobby were near him and he has one shot at it. What would he do if Bobby just made dozens of clones and bombarded him with giant icicles in a blizzard?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wissenschaft View Post
    The problem with Bobby is that hes always been inconsistent with how he uses his power. He's never been as serious as other xmen. Storms not an omega mutant but she's often had more impressive feats than Booby even though hes been an xman for longer.
    Something I'm really hoping gets fixed in his solo. He should be at the top of the food chain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wissenschaft View Post
    The problem with Bobby is that hes always been inconsistent with how he uses his power. He's never been as serious as other xmen. Storms not an omega mutant but she's often had more impressive feats than Booby even though hes been an xman for longer. I'm not sure how much a threat Iceman will be but who knows. With him getting a solo book, maybe he'll do something impressive. However, his track record says otherwise.
    Yep. Hopefully, they've realized this by now, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoCoBandz View Post
    His best ability would only work if Bobby were near him and he has one shot at it. What would he do if Bobby just made dozens of clones and bombarded him with giant icicles in a blizzard?
    Bobby should just be able to freeze everything around him so anyone near him is exposed to sub-zero temps and die quickly. Hard to put up a fight for long when your freezing to death. But Storm should be able to do the same.

    My point is, theres a difference between what a character can do and what the writers will actually let them do. Don't expect Iceman to trash his opponents with ease. That doesn't make for exciting battles and would piss off inhuman fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoCoBandz View Post
    Is there any Inhuman that can match Iceman? Like an actual mad and unleashed Iceman?
    Not really, Reader is up there but he's a limited Legion. If any of the Omega mutants are out to kill the Inhumans are screwed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wissenschaft View Post
    Bobby should just be able to freeze everything around him so anyone near him is exposed to sub-zero temps and die quickly. Hard to put up a fight for long when your freezing to death. But Storm should be able to do the same.

    My point is, theres a difference between what a character can do and what the writers will actually let them do. Don't expect Iceman to trash his opponents with ease. That doesn't make for exciting battles and would piss off inhuman fans.
    Oh yeah I know he's gonna job hard as per usual, but its just funny to think about. Always helps me remember how silly these hero vs hero events are.

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    CoCoBandz :
    His best ability would only work if Bobby were near him and he has one shot at it. What would he do if Bobby just made dozens of clones and bombarded him with giant icicles in a blizzard?
    Freeze (time stop) and then Death?

    or rewrite (reality warping)? "No more Iceman"

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    Wissenschaft :
    Bobby should just be able to freeze everything around him so anyone near him is exposed to sub-zero temps and die quickly. Hard to put up a fight for long when your freezing to death. But Storm should be able to do the same.
    Crystal or Reader should be able to buy time.

    CoCoBandz :
    Oh yeah I know he's gonna job hard as per usual, but its just funny to think about. Always helps me remember how silly these hero vs hero events are.
    Partially. Full powers from the very beginning is very risky. Good counter can be scary.

    BB can be countered by Dazzler but thanks to Auran this plan can fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Fist View Post
    Why would it be a cop out that she needs the Cuckoos to breach their minds when doing her global announcements but she can take down the defences of multiple Inhumans and mutants solo plus projecting it physically so someone can get video of it? Don't buy it. Emma is powerful but she's not that strong.



    ... Emma is stronger than the hivemind? Since when? =s

    But thanks for clarifying, thought my memory of #2 was shot xD
    She clearly is that strong, as she did make a physical psychic projection of Cyclops and she did get around the psychic defenses of multiple Inhumans and mutants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockstadt View Post
    Agreed. She shouldn't be able to withstand a full force blast.

    But as many others have stated, Dazzler can withstand a lot. In a recent What If story, or possibly during a Secret Wars story, Black Bolt blasted Dazzler to enable her to attack Thanos. She put down Thanos and as she cannot create energy herself, she has to be able to withstand enough of Black Bolts power to beat Thanos. That's a lot. So Dazzler, fighting through pain, cured by Elixir, with symptoms removed by Triage or powers copied by Hope, can be a major player.
    Depends. If Black Bolt drops the idiot ball during a confrontation with Dazzler, he'll rely on his super-strength, flight and non-sound based abilities to win it.
    Now, Emma with the support of Dazzler and someone like M or Gabriel Sheperd...? Maybe she could get somewhere.
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    The Inhumans have Inferno and Johnny Storm on their side.
    Iceman is Omega Level but the Human Torch can go Supernova.

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    Death Seed Iceman almost destroyed the world. He also whooped Thor. Fire manipulators shouldnt be a worry. If so just have Oya support by using the flames to channel into ice. Check and mate.

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