Last edited by the illustrious mr. kenway; 01-24-2023 at 11:43 AM.
Hank Henshaw the Cyborg Superman needs an actual codename. He should be called Cyber-Man or something.
I so preferred the original. I like the idea of him (and other heroes) not being so immediately connected to existing heroes and villains. In either emotional or biological context. Gives them more room to not be defined by them or constantly compared (something Kon was trying to do was find was his own identity, rather than the one he was made for - that's a great story, but it has to end and move on to the next thing instead being repeated over and over). While he can still do that, even biologically related, I prefer the character more separate, because so long as he remains in Lex or Clark's spheres, he's going to remain subordinate and defined by the needs of those characters' storyarcs. Ironically, in some ways, it keeps him the perpetual child. I have similar issues with Dick Grayson in the post-COIE era. Of course, the decline in the popularity of the Titans and the rise for Batman was a huge part of that, but to me it really stunted Dick as a character. So, that being said, I'm really not a fan of the hero "families" and young characters remaining in them as they reach adulthood because it keeps them from reaching greater heights as characters, IMO. Plus, I like heroes having their own civilian supporting casts, and the families just make the heroes more and more insular, as they interact with regular people less because they're always interacting with other heroes instead.
So, anyway, I liked SB as a spin-off character, which means he needs to be spun-off and have his own story and only occasionally interact with Superman and Superman's inner circle, IMO.
Last edited by Tzigone; 01-31-2023 at 07:20 AM.
For some reason, I thought all this Multiverse talk was to lead to the ability to tell stories from the original DCU Multiverse as though Crisis was halted and the plot device I mean Antimonitor was unsuccessful in killing all those verses outside of the first one. So we could see stories of what E2 Supes and E1 Supes have been up to as well as how everyone made out since that verse didn't see their Crisis play out like the one we saw originally.
Same for the Post Crisis verse, Post Zero Hour verse and onward.
Not sure why we are doing Lazarus and these other events as I thought the idea was that we aren't limited to a combined single continuity
"Has Sariel summoned you here, Azrael? Have you come to witness the miracle of your brethren arriving on Earth?"
"I WILL MIX THE ASHES OF YOUR BONES WITH SALT AND USE THEM TO ENSURE THE EARTH THE TEMPLARS TILLED NEVER BEARS FRUIT AGAIN!"
"*sigh* I hoped it was for the miracle."
Dan Watters' Azrael was incredible, a constant delight and perhaps too good for this world (but not the Forth). For the love of St. Dumas, DC, give us more!!!
Honestly? I think the main reason DC brought back the Multiverse was to simply say "everything happened" so they'd have a built in excuse when continuity doesn't flow as seamlessly as fans would like while also appeasing the fanbase who's been clamoring for it's return all these years without having to do a whole lot of extra work. I don't ever see them not focusing on a single combined continuity and think the Multiverse will probably only be used to add a little flourish every once in awhile. Probably not the answer a lot of fans want, but I'm probably just going to content myself with the idea that all the Black Label, DC Horror, along with other OOC DC stories like Superman Space Age are peeks into those other worlds.
Last edited by phonogram12; 01-31-2023 at 10:23 AM.
Keep in mind that you have about as much chance of changing my mind as I do of changing yours.
“Look, you can’t put the Superman #77s with the #200s. They haven’t even discovered Red Kryptonite yet. And you can’t put the #98s with the #300s, Lori Lemaris hasn’t even been introduced.” — Sam
“Where the hell are you from? Krypton?” — Edgar Frog
I don't give Geoff Johns a lot of credit but at least he tried to make it work with the Earth's 1985 and 52. Apparently that wasn't good enough for DC.
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I confess I don't much care for Multiverse stuff much.I think Hickman's (way too) long Avengers run dealing with that and only that burnt me out. I could handle it if it was just background like "hey! The E1 Firestorm is visiting today and will be on this adventure with Kal!"
But as the main focus? No thank you!
From Darren Mooney:
https://twitter.com/Darren_Mooney/st...tmYD6pY9A&s=19There is something deeply, deeply fascinating in the notion that nothing has been more damaging to "Superman" than the people who make the character so much of their identity.
In particular, their extremely limiting ideas of what he "is" or "must" be to be "really" him.
Couldn't have said it better myself.