Controversial Superman Opinions

[llozymandias]

I miss the days when Superman actually used the lab facilities in his fortress. Plus the cliche of naive (stupid) farm boy, is not only outdated it was never really an actual thing.

[llozymandias]

If he's gonna have comic stories anyway, why not just leave him at his pre-Crisis level?

Either way, a cosmic adventure for him is not going to play out exactly the same way as it would for any of the characters you mentioned. That's why these are all different characters.

Pre-coie stories where Superman was exploring the universe were mostly fun. The power level he had at the time made those adventures possible. Because he was able to explore a galaxy that was billions of light years away & return to earth in a timely manner.

[PCN24454]

I miss the days when Superman actually used the lab facilities in his fortress. Plus the cliche of naive (stupid) farm boy, is not only outdated it was never really an actual thibg.

Superman is rarely portrayed as “stupid” even in crossovers with “genius” characters.

Omnidisciplinary scientists are annoying to me, so it doesn’t bother me as much.

[Tzigone]

I miss the days when Superman actually used the lab facilities in his fortress. Plus the cliche of naive (stupid) farm boy, is not only outdated it was never really an actual thing.

I don't care about the science lab, but I do dislike the "naive farmboy" thing a lot. It really doesn't seem like it was ever a thing until at least the movie, where it was part of his disguise. Originally, of course, it had nothing to do with his day to day life, and was just a common occupation among the parents of people that age. Then in Superboy, they'd moved to town when he was young. But now it's become this sort of "thing" often used to explain his faith in people (though there is no logical reason rural people would have more faith in others) or superior values (again not more prominent among rural people), or as a contrast to Lois (who also had a rural background at one time).

[Stanlos]

If the likes of Gamora, Star-Lord, Drax, the Fantastic Four, Rocket Raccoon, Adam Strange, Vril Dox and Mr Miracle could have cosmic stories then it is inaccurate to claim post-crisis Superman was too weak for cosmic stories.

Plus, did he not actually have cosmic stories? I could have sworn that I read of Superman having some sort of half naked exiled in space story, one to which Future State calls back. Then there was some stories where he actually increases the output of Green Lantern Corpsmen power output because of his will enabling victory. And I also thought there was one where he moved the earth and several other celestial bodies overcoming some alien machinery to do so

[godisawesome]

I don't care about the science lab, but I do dislike the "naive farmboy" thing a lot. It really doesn't seem like it was ever a thing until at least the movie, where it was part of his disguise. Originally, of course, it had nothing to do with his day to day life, and was just a common occupation among the parents of people that age. Then in Superboy, they'd moved to town when he was young. But now it's become this sort of "thing" often used to explain his faith in people (though there is no logical reason rural people would have more faith in others) or superior values (again not more prominent among rural people), or as a contrast to Lois (who also had a rural background at one time).

I’m with you in this.

Farmboy should not equal “naive”, and in modern times, mostly just suggests he’d be use to early rising, having some chores... and likely be aware of some of the flaws of the country in a manner similar to Lois knowing about the flaws of the city.

I disliked the attempt to make Jonathon Kent some paranoid pseudo-Objectivist advocating for doing nothing out of fear for Clark in MOS... but I appreciate the family having some genuine wariness and doubts about how their town will treat Clark, and whenever Cavill was allowed to show some “chip on his shoulder” attitude, it worked.

[Kaitou D. Kid]

On the topic of Clark Kent, Glenn Greenwald is what I imagine a modern Clark Kent would be like. He is objective, brilliant, and ruthless at speaking truth to power...but he is physically not very intimidating or manly-looking, and is treated as an annoying pest by his enemies and fellow journalists before he is anything else.

They're also both farmboys on their time off.

[Tzigone]

Roxy was a much more interesting character than Tana in the 90s Superboy comics.

[Will Evans]

Bring back Cir-El, but not as Superman’s daughter, and not as Supergirl

[Laufeyson]

The real person equivalent of Superman is Fred Rogers.

[SuperX]

Roxy was a much more interesting character than Tana in the 90s Superboy comics.

Now that girl knew how to get in trouble,scrappy and mouthy, my kinda girl lol.

Bring back Cir-El, but not as Superman’s daughter, and not as Supergirl

Yes plz, cir had potential, she was just used wrong Imo. She could be another luthor clone and kon can deal with her, and his "father"

[BBally]

I don't have an issue with Superman starting out as a mysterious figure like Batman in the start of his career like some people as I see it as a nod to how the Golden Age version of the character started, basically Batman copied Superman's shtick not the other way round.

[PCN24454]

I don't have an issue with Superman starting out as a mysterious figure like Batman in the start of his career like some people as I see it as a nod to how the Golden Age version of the character started, basically Batman copied Superman's shtick not the other way round.

People had a problem with it?

[manwhohaseverything]

I don't have an issue with Superman starting out as a mysterious figure like Batman in the start of his career like some people as I see it as a nod to how the Golden Age version of the character started, basically Batman copied Superman's shtick not the other way round.

It was originally zorro's shtick,actually. But,batman indeed stole it from superman because batman was also introduced as a strongman himself.

[Robanker]

"Superman is literally wearing the American flag."

He's wearing goddamn primary colors. There isn't one speck of white on his costume. Come on, man. I know we like to reach in cape comics but must we be colorblind? Captain America wears the American flag. Diana, when she had the star-spangled undies, wore the American flag. Superman wears primary colors, two of which are on the American Flag, yes, but all three of which constitute the Armenian and Colombian flags in their entirety as neither have any other design elements. Drop this tired claim that's always used to somehow insinuate that Clark's some good ol' boy who is in some G man's pocket.

The American flag requires stars and the colors red, white and blue. Superman's costume is red, blue and yellow. If we're bringing flags into this, his costume's more Colombian than it is American. Drop this ****.