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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk Chicken View Post
    A few more fully-realized costumes and everyone will sing it's praises, whether Kinberg is producing or Donald Duck.
    Something so simple yet will it ever happen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiderClops View Post
    . Has MCU ever been called "Iron Man and Friends"?

    Marvel characters get better lines of dialogue/character arcs and action/power displays.

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    Default Should Legion TV show be Part of XCU?

    I say no. Fox has absolutely no idea how to make a coherent universe. If they make it part of the movies, there would dozens and dozens of errors, they'd also just flat out ignore number of stuff.

    So I personally think, it should be in it's own separate universe, like CW Arroverse has nothing to do with DCEU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiderClops View Post
    I say no. Fox has absolutely no idea how to make a coherent universe. If they make it part of the movies, there would dozens and dozens of errors, they'd also just flat out ignore number of stuff.

    So I personally think, it should be in it's own separate universe, like CW Arroverse has nothing to do with DCEU.
    Just say Legion's reality warping caused the continuity errors. He does that in the comics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Man of Sin View Post
    Just say Legion's reality warping caused the continuity errors. He does that in the comics.
    So where in this convoluted timeline does Charles even father Legion? Movie Charles didn't go on that world trip after Korea. He didn't have adventures with Erik in Israel and save Gabrielle. Charles never fought Shadow King, so why would he use Legion against him?

    They've played loose and fast with the canon, and now they want to build canon out of nothing(because they didn't set it up in the 16 years they've had)?!

    As cool as the Legion show may or may not be, its going to be very difficult to connect him back to the main X-Men story because they have omitted and changed so much. Which sucks, because Claremont's version is great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiderClops View Post
    First: the Ganke think ain't cool. I won't defend MCU for that one. Nor do I defend Hank Pym and Janet's treatment.

    I will defend IM making Ultron though, because Pym wasn't introduced at that point and if putting Hank Pym in AoA at that point wouldn't make a lot of sense, it'd be like Archangel in Apocalypse, in the name only. Removing is better.

    Second: Why should FoX-Men get an excuse? They're doing these things from pretty much the very start, it's 10 times worse than MCU. So yeah, some mistakes of MCU does not excuse FoX-Men for the same mistakes(but way worse). This franchise has been called "Wolverine and Friends" and "The Chuck & Eric Show". There's reason for that. Has MCU ever been called "Iron Man and Friends"?


    MCU is iron man friends at this point.

    captain america 3 was iron man and friends.

    spiderman homecoming is iron man: homecoming. its a disgrace that the best marvel character is now a lap dog for tony stark.

    and what makes is worse is that characters like wolverine, mystique, xavier and magneto come of age and have grown through out the movies . iron man gets more childish and annoying with each movie. it must be the disney factor. disney has to keep iron man child like to appeal to kids.Iron Man is basically MCU peter pan and not in good way.

    this is the same mcu that banned a real story line of his substance abuse problem from the comic and just had him make more silly jokes just to a appeal to kids with the mcu movies..

    no thanks. give me movie wolverine, xavier and magneto over rdj iron man any day,
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    Quote Originally Posted by yogaflame View Post
    So where in this convoluted timeline does Charles even father Legion? Movie Charles didn't go on that world trip after Korea. He didn't have adventures with Erik in Israel and save Gabrielle. Charles never fought Shadow King, so why would he use Legion against him?

    They've played loose and fast with the canon, and now they want to build canon out of nothing(because they didn't set it up in the 16 years they've had)?!

    As cool as the Legion show may or may not be, its going to be very difficult to connect him back to the main X-Men story because they have omitted and changed so much. Which sucks, because Claremont's version is great.
    It doesn't seem to be set in the new timeline based on interviews but connects to it.
    Last edited by Divine Spark; 12-17-2016 at 12:52 AM. Reason: Meant to say "doesn't".

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    Is IM in Gardians of the Galaxy Vol.2? Is he in Thor:Ragnarok? Is he in Ant-Man and the Wasp? Was he in Doctor Strange? CA:CW was IM and Friends? Seriously?

    LOL at people thinking IM's gonna steal the show from SM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiderClops View Post
    Is IM in Gardians of the Galaxy Vol.2? Is he in Thor:Ragnarok? Is he in Ant-Man and the Wasp? Was he in Doctor Strange? CA:CW was IM and Friends? Seriously?

    LOL at people thinking IM's gonna steal the show from SM.
    He is already stealing SM show. that was the reviews of the trailer. lmao.

    GOTG 2 has yet to to even acknowledge the MCU . the director said the GOTG movies are not done based in the mcu events. gotg is in a pocket universe for now.

    the bottomline is this. x-men is saying goodbye to wolverine, we are ready to move on from wolverine. disney continues to hold on to Iron Man and he gets more childish with each movies. how else can they sell toys to kids or make kids watch their movie without a man child like tony stark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selina View Post
    He is already stealing SM show. that was the reviews of the trailer. lmao.

    GOTG 2 has yet to to even acknowledge the MCU . the director said the GOTG movies are not done based in the mcu events. gotg is in a pocket universe for now.

    the bottomline is this. x-men is saying goodbye to wolverine, we are ready to move on from wolverine. disney continues to hold on to Iron Man and he gets more childish with each movies. how else can they sell toys to kids or make kids watch their movie without a man child like tony stark.
    Saying IM is stealing show from SM is like saying Prof. X is gonna steal the show from Wolverine in Logan.

    GotG doesn't acknowledge MCU. Facepalm!

    Disney for kids, it's all about selling toys, bla bla bla.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selina View Post
    MCU is iron man friends at this point.

    captain america 3 was iron man and friends.

    spiderman homecoming is iron man: homecoming. its a disgrace that the best marvel character is now a lap dog for tony stark.

    and what makes is worse is that characters like wolverine, mystique, xavier and magneto come of age and have grown through out the movies . iron man gets more childish and annoying with each movie. it must be the disney factor. disney has to keep iron man child like to appeal to kids.Iron Man is basically MCU peter pan and not in good way.

    this is the same mcu that banned a real story line of his substance abuse problem from the comic and just had him make more silly jokes just to a appeal to kids with the mcu movies..

    no thanks. give me movie wolverine, xavier and magneto over rdj iron man any day,
    Now, now, we don't critique the MemeCU around here. Don't you know cool, normal people who don't read comics love those movies? And they have made so much money and money is god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiderClops View Post

    Disney for kids, it's all about selling toys, bla bla bla.
    But it's true. Each time the premiere of the new Disney-Marvel movie all the shops are filled up with tons of toys. Marvel and Toys is now almost synonymous.

    And sweets, clothes and bags for children, school supplies. Fox does not have anything like this.

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    At least IM is a Real Avenger. Meanwhile in the FoX-men...Mystique is gotten more screen time and development then actual X-women.

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    Movie Charles had a social and sexual life before he got paralyzed. So some woman he had an affair with could still be Legion's mother. Or since X-Men: Apocalypse takes place in the 80s, Moira MacTaggert could be Legion's mother if Charles is able to do the nasty.

    So yes now that Disney/Marvel is joint producing tv shows about mutants, we see why the X-Men make a big come back and why the mutants will end up defeating the Inhumans, destroying the cloud and no longer being endangered with the Inhumans leaving earth. Amazing what a change in film/tv rights will do. I'm looking forward to the two next team movies, the one about the Phoenix and the one about the New Mutants, both of which got reconceptualized after X-Men: Apocalypse's mediocre (but still profitable) performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumbo View Post
    But it's true. Each time the premiere of the new Disney-Marvel movie all the shops are filled up with tons of toys. Marvel and Toys is now almost synonymous.

    And sweets, clothes and bags for children, school supplies. Fox does not have anything like this.
    Haha true.

    Disney have toys and Avengers. Fox have Mystique and X-man (Wolverine).

    Where are X-men(rest)?

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