X-Men Cinematic Universe

[mace11]

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Touchstone Pictures is a film distribution label of Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures. Previously, it was operated as a active film production banner of The Walt Disney Studios, owned by The Walt Disney Company. Established on Wednesday 15 February 1984 by then-Disney CEO Ron W Miller as Touchstone FIlms. Its releases are typically more adult orientated than those under the Disney label, although the features, Who Framed Roger Rabbit and The Nightmare Before Christmas, which used to be released under the Touchstone banner, are now considered as "Disney" movies (the former featured Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck and many other Disney characters, though it also featured characters from other studios while the latter was featured in the Kingdom Hearts series: a Disney/Square Enix video game crossover and the latter was released under Walt Disney Pictures upon its theatrical re-release in 2007). Another Touchstone film Reign of Fire may also considered as a "Disney" movie.

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[mace11]

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711px-Miramax Films svg Miramax Films is an American entertainment company known for distributing independent and foreign films. For its first 14 years the company was privately owned by its founders, Bob and Harvey Weinstein. In 1993, the company was acquired by The Walt Disney Company. In 2005, the brothers founded the Weinstein Company.
Miramax operated, until 2005, the label Dimension Films, specializing in genre films and created the Spy Kids, Scream and Scary Movie film franchises.

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Dimension Films is an American film production company owned by The Weinstein Company. It was formerly used as Bob Weinstein's label within Miramax Films, to produce and release genre films. The Weinstein Brothers took this label with them when they departed the Disney-owned Miramax in October 2005.

All films released by Dimension Films prior to October 1, 2005 remain the property of Miramax Films; half the profits of sequels made to Miramax-era films went to Disney until Miramax was sold to Filmyard Holdings, a joint venture of Colony Capital, Tutor-Saliba Corporation, and Qatar Investment Authority in 2010.

The studio's movie franchises include the later Halloween films, Children of the Corn, Scream, Spy Kids and Scary Movie.

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[SpiderClops]

Thank You mace11. Because the Disney logo doesn't show up in Marvel Studios movies, they can make an R-rated movie, and seeing the Netflix series, they might someday.

And remember people, The Killing Joke was also R-rated. So hope that Logan actually does something with its rating and not turn out to be a gimmick.

[TooFlyToFail]

My number one suggestion would be:

1. Pay attention to why Deadpool worked. It wasn't because of the humor, or the R rating, or even the budget. It worked because the studio hired guys who understood and were passionate about the material, and then let them work their magic with a minimum of interference.

Still tho, it's best not to get bogged down with having to "be true" to the material. Look at Logan: an amalgamation of OML, Target X, X-23 (KYost), and Death of Wolverine, but still not feeling like it's forcing itself to be something.

Try to do both. Tho, there are some cases when they should just copy the comics.

Also, I like this direction of smaller budget movies, that allow for more creative freedom. This the direction that Gambit should go in. Just make it a heist movie, or a VS heist movie where Fantomex and Gambit are both trying to steal something valuable.

Want to bring back Michael Fassbender? Good, but keep him out of the X-Men movies for a bit. How do you do that? Give him a movie of him founding Genosha. Base it off the Utopia X arc of Ultimate Comics X-Men. That in itself can be 2-3 movies.

Having X-Men movies that cover different areas of the X-Men Universe is world building.

- Deadpool (comedy, with rotation of guest stars)
- New Mutants (with rotation of X-kid rosters, to explore the idea of the next generation of X-Men being trained)
- Genosha/Utopia X (exploring the wider world of mutants)
- Logan/Wolverine solo movies (to give the dude his own R-rated adventures, and keep him busy enough that if he does show up he's only a secondary player in the main X-Men movies)
- X-Force (this the team the Wolverine leads, but it's more of a series of "man on a mission", ensemble movies)
- Xcaliber (a UK based team that deals the multi-dimensional)
- X-Men (main movies that focus on non-Wolverine/Xavier/Magneto/Mystique characters; pure sci-fi, and grand scale epics)

So yeah, a lot of lower to mid level budget movies, that act as the foundation, with the X-Men movies being the giant specticals.

[TooFlyToFail]

Thank You mace11. Because the Disney logo doesn't show up in Marvel Studios movies, they can make an R-rated movie, and seeing the Netflix series, they might someday.

And remember people, The Killing Joke was also R-rated. So hope that Logan actually something does with its rating and not turn out to be a gimmick.

Based on the reaction of the first 40min, it sure looks like the are.

[SpiderClops]

Still tho, it's best not to get bogged down with having to "be true" to the material. Look at Logan: an amalgamation of OML, Target X, X-23 (KYost), and Death of Wolverine, but still not feeling like it's forcing itself to be something.

Try to do both. Tho, there are some cases when they should just copy the comics.

Also, I like this direction of smaller budget movies, that allow for more creative freedom. This the direction that Gambit should go in. Just make it a heist movie, or a VS heist movie where Fantomex and Gambit are both trying to steal something valuable.

Want to bring back Michael Fassbender? Good, but keep him out of the X-Men movies for a bit. How do you do that? Give him a movie of him founding Genosha. Base it off the Utopia X arc of Ultimate Comics X-Men. That in itself can be 2-3 movies.

Having X-Men movies that cover different areas of the X-Men Universe is world building.

- Deadpool (comedy, with rotation of guest stars)
- New Mutants (with rotation of X-kid rosters, to explore the idea of the next generation of X-Men being trained)
- Genosha/Utopia X (exploring the wider world of mutants)
- Logan/Wolverine solo movies (to give the dude his own R-rated adventures, and keep him busy enough that if he does show up he's only a secondary player in the main X-Men movies)
- X-Force (this the team the Wolverine leads, but it's more of a series of "man on a mission", ensemble movies)
- Xcaliber (a UK based team that deals the multi-dimensional)
- X-Men (main movies that focus on non-Wolverine/Xavier/Magneto/Mystique characters; pure sci-fi, and grand scale epics)

So yeah, a lot of lower to mid level budget movies, that act as the foundation, with the X-Men movies being the giant specticals.

Good suggestions.

[ChildOfTheAtom]

It's kinda funny how people are praising Deadpool for being R rated and blah blah blah


When its a known fact most X-Men fans hate Deadpool and don't even consider him a part of X-Men lore.

Its really embarrassing that Deadpool is the best and most profitable x film.

And the truly sad part is that Deadpool isonly the best x film because ITS ACTUALLY COMIC BOOK Accurate.


It's over for X-Men I've come to accept it. We don't get as talented of actors directors and most certainly writers and fight choreographers or costume designers.

All because of these damn Leather Matrix Movies with no real diversity (all minorities are just there to take up space not deal with the actual plot)


Guess I'll just take what I can get but genre fans have moved on to marvel nobody outside of x fans cares anymore.

[Celestial]

Agree with bold 100%. The MCU isn't as perfect as some people make it out to be.

No one is saying it is

[Celestial]

But Disney will never allow R-rated movies. It goes against their entire brand image. That's an objective fact. Nobody is asking you to give credit to Fox for all of Deadpool's success, but it's a simple truth that the movie would not have been allowed to be made in the way it was if the brand was in MCU.

Personally, I don't care about R-rated movies. I rather see a good PG-13 movie than a bad R-rated one.

[SpiderClops]

It's kinda funny how people are praising Deadpool for being R rated and blah blah blah


When its a known fact most X-Men fans hate Deadpool and don't even consider him a part of X-Men lore.

Its really embarrassing that Deadpool is the best and most profitable x film.

And the truly sad part is that Deadpool isonly the best x film because ITS ACTUALLY COMIC BOOK Accurate.


It's over for X-Men I've come to accept it. We don't get as talented of actors directors and most certainly writers and fight choreographers or costume designers.

All because of these damn Leather Matrix Movies with no real diversity (all minorities are just there to take up space not deal with the actual plot)


Guess I'll just take what I can get but genre fans have moved on to marvel nobody outside of x fans cares anymore.

Though it is one of the most embarrassing things, it is not the most. The most embarrassing thing for me is that I like/care more about Deadpool's girlfriend than Jean, Storm, Rogue or any other female character in these movies. Well done, Singer and Co., well done.

[Soulsword323]

No one is saying it is

A lot of people act like it is. They say they aren't perfect, yet when anyone criticizes MCU/Disney, people act like those criticizes aren't valid.

[Celestial]

A lot of people act like it is. They say they aren't perfect, yet when anyone criticizes MCU/Disney, people act like those criticizes aren't valid.

The same can be said when people criticize FoX-men. It goes both ways really

[SpiderClops]

16 years. Repeating the same mistakes. Kind of unforgivable.

[Jackraow21]

I'm actually more excited about the spinoffs now than the main X-men franchise or characters. Sounds like 'Logan' will be great and a fitting sendoff for Hugh Jackman's rendition of Wolverine, especially in this more grounded FOX X-verse where he never wore a colorful costume with a mask. Once it's done, though, they need to kind of retool the main X-men franchise and give it some time before coming back to it. In the meantime, we've got...

1) Deadpool 2, which will hopefully be followed by X-Force;
2) New Mutants
3) Gambit (tentatively), if they can ever get it off the ground.

That should be enough to give them material through 2019 or 2020, then give us a badass X-men film set in the present day. Recast everybody and bring in new creative voices to helm the franchise.

[vasir12]

I'm actually more excited about the spinoffs now than the main X-men franchise or characters. Sounds like 'Logan' will be great and a fitting sendoff for Hugh Jackman's rendition of Wolverine, especially in this more grounded FOX X-verse where he never wore a colorful costume with a mask. Once it's done, though, they need to kind of retool the main X-men franchise and give it some time before coming back to it. In the meantime, we've got...

1) Deadpool 2, which will hopefully be followed by X-Force;
2) New Mutants
3) Gambit (tentatively), if they can ever get it off the ground.

That should be enough to give them material through 2019 or 2020, then give us a badass X-men film set in the present day. Recast everybody and bring in new creative voices to helm the franchise.

from what I understand there's 4(or 5) release slots for FOX? I wonder when they'll release a full slate. Or maybe it's still undecided.