I think having it leads directly into the opening of a New Hope really strengthens it too because the audience knows that yes their sacrifices were worth something.
I think having it leads directly into the opening of a New Hope really strengthens it too because the audience knows that yes their sacrifices were worth something.
One other thing I liked is this retroactively clears the Empire of direct incompetence, the weakness in the Death Star was a feature not a flaw.
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Just got back from seeing it.
Wow. First 30 minutes were kind of slow and dull, but the remaining 90 are the best the franchise has seen since Empire.
I knew the main cast would be morally grey, but I was surprised to see the rebellion as a whole be so morally grey, especially after the 'Greedo/Han shoots first' fiasco.
The Death Star is so much more threatening in Rogue 1 than it is in the original trilogy, as is Vader and the Empire as a whole.
Great action scenes.
Was expecting more of a Magnificent 7/Seven Samurai ending where most of the crew dies but a core group makes it out, especially since the opening crawl of A New Hope called the battle at the end of Rogue 1 a victory. Only the fact that they got the plans out at all makes it a victory. The actual battle was won by the Empire. I was really surprised they were willing to kill the whole cast like that.
I've seen complaints about the characters, and while they don't hold a candle to Han Solo, I don't have any problems with them.
In the end, I liked this better than Force Awakens. That had a great first half and petered out in the second half. This had a weak start but just got better and better as it went along.
If only the prequels had been this good.
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That Darth Vader massacre scene felt like a horror movie. Awsome!!!!!!
Last edited by tabo61; 12-21-2016 at 07:31 PM.
I liked a lot of it. Do I think it's quality film making? No. It isn't the worst, but there are some major flaws throughout. Especially in character development, which I knew would be a factor given the director.
A lot of it does work though. Even the fan service, with only the 3PO cameo being the biggest major WTF of the bunch. Even seeing the criminal dudes from the bar in ANH was cool. Tarkin looked great, I thought. I was fearing it was going to be Jeff Bridges Tron Legacy bad, but a lot of those scenes with him looked really good. Some times you could tell, but at a distance it looked like Peter Cushing was back from the dead. It was cool that Peter Cushing actually had a supporting role. Leia on the other hand was a bit more noticeable. Also liked seeing Red and Gold leader again. That stock footage came in handy decades later.
Vader was awesome in his two scenes. Though the first scene was really unnecessary which pretty much amounted to Krennic waking Vader up just so Vader could tell him to fuck off. Loved his Castle. Loved the idea of how he rest in the tank. Just wish they had made the scene longer and let it breath, which was another flaw in the film(and one a lot of film makers make now) in that you need to let scenes and shots have the right amount of time. Some great Death Star shots only to cut away and lose the most impact visually.
First half of the film was sloppy, and the jumping around from planet to planet at the beginning was annoying, confusing, and took me out of the film almost right away.
TFA was better IMO, by far, but R1 was definitely better than the prequels. It itself is the best prequel. The film doesn't embarrass or take away from ANH, and in fact enhances quite a bit. So much so that you want to go home right away and watch it.
Last edited by The Nuke; 12-17-2016 at 05:33 PM.
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The Vader scene, and his his anger at the start of New Hope, take on a new significance when you think about the battle when he arrives. Two Star Destroyers crippled, THOUSANDS o f loyal Empire personnel dead - yeah, he is royally pissed and not above taking it out on the terrorists who just perpetrated mass murder [his perspective].
Also his talk with Krennik about the Death Star's unique ability to cause problems helps put his perspective on the battle station into focus. Vader is a guy who distrusts the ability of THINGS to get the job done. His words at the meeting with Tarkin and Motti aboard the Death Star now have a new and significance.
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