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    Default Did Storms warning to Crystal prevent the X-Men from destroying both clouds?

    During Death of X 4, Cyclops team of X-Men were under immense pressure to destroy the first cloud. The plan was to send Magneto to occupy the Inhumans which he succeeded in doing so. The person who pieced together this plan and warned Crystal was Storm. Who pointed them in the direction of the T-Cloud. This set off the alarm for Medusa and Blackbolt arriving with Lockjaw. As a result Alchemy and Sunfire had to rush to destroy the cloud in a hazardous way. Sunfire was actually hurt by Inferno but succeeded in dropping Alchemy to his death.

    So had Cyclops X-Men had more time, did they potentially have the opportunity to take out the cloud without Alchemy having to be soaked in it. Secondly, would this also mean that the Inhumans would have been too late to catch on and given them the opportunity to take out the second cloud while the inhumans are preoccupied with the first one.



    Additionally, after realising Cyclops plan, instead of helping stall the inhumans the EXM aided them.

    It would have been more productive to show solidarity with Jamie Maddox death or grieve for him by remaining neutral at the very least.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    During Death of X 4, Cyclops team of X-Men were under immense pressure to destroy the first cloud. The plan was to send Magneto to occupy the Inhumans which he succeeded in doing so. The person who pieced together this plan and warned Crystal was Storm. Who pointed them in the direction of the T-Cloud. This set off the alarm for Medusa and Blackbolt arriving with Lockjaw. As a result Alchemy and Sunfire had to rush to destroy the cloud in a hazardous way. Sunfire was actually hurt by Inferno but succeeded in dropping Alchemy to his death.

    So had Cyclops X-Men had more time, did they potentially have the opportunity to take out the cloud without Alchemy having to be soaked in it. Secondly, would this also mean that the Inhumans would have been too late to catch on and given them the opportunity to take out the second cloud while the inhumans are preoccupied with the first one.



    Additionally, after realising Cyclops plan, instead of helping stall the inhumans the EXM aided them.


    It would have been more productive to show solidarity with Jamie Maddox death or grieve for him by remaining neutral at the very least.

    No. At the end of the day that's the story that was planned out and i'm sure "edited" and then presented to be drawn. So not really.
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    Maybe but on the other hand the Inhumans would not be happy about it and many of them would want revenge.

    In the end probably we would still have a war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwatson View Post
    No. At the end of the day that's the story that was planned out and i'm sure "edited" and then presented to be drawn. So not really.
    Yeah pretty much this. I Agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwatson View Post
    No. At the end of the day that's the story that was planned out and i'm sure "edited" and then presented to be drawn. So not really.
    So it was intentionally edited to have the EXM team side with the Inhumans even after Maddox is a victim? Intentionally edited to make them look bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knives View Post
    Maybe but on the other hand the Inhumans would not be happy about it and many of them would want revenge.

    In the end probably we would still have a war.
    Yeah but X-Men would have the upper hand since the terrigens shouldn't have killed half of their numbers

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    Quote Originally Posted by somacula View Post
    Yeah but X-Men would have the upper hand since the terrigens shouldn't have killed half of their numbers
    Would have also produced less inhumans and they still wouldn't have the moral high ground in the superhero community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    So it was intentionally edited to have the EXM team side with the Inhumans even after Maddox is a victim? Intentionally edited to make them look bad?
    They thought making a truce would be better for mutants than war. They were kinda wrong, but they obviously didn't had bad intentions. This Anti-Storm/EXM thing just gets more annoying and unreasonable every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    So it was intentionally edited to have the EXM team side with the Inhumans even after Maddox is a victim? Intentionally edited to make them look bad?
    It was intentionally edited to have the story presented the way it was. These things aren't written one issue at a time and then adjusted based on fan reaction or thoughts. As such if your asking why they did it only they can answer that as it surely wasn't the best option but nothing would have changed the outcome of the story. They wanted the one cloud destroyed and even if Storm had to blow it into space herself it would have happened. Just like they didn't want both destroyed because then there would be no I Vs. X so nothing short of a terrigen cloud hitting the marvel offices and them feeling the peanut allergy was going to change anything in the story as it was presented in it's entirety. Same thing with the Emma question below. The real truth is it didn't matter what any of them did. A good story would have had the ebbs and flows that go with what is happening but this story clearly just had an outcome and they were going to get it anyway they could.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwatson View Post
    It was intentionally edited to have the story presented the way it was. These things aren't written one issue at a time and then adjusted based on fan reaction or thoughts. As such if your asking why they did it only they can answer that as it surely wasn't the best option but nothing would have changed the outcome of the story. They wanted the one cloud destroyed and even if Storm had to blow it into space herself it would have happened. Just like they didn't want both destroyed because then there would be no I Vs. X so nothing short of a terrigen cloud hitting the marvel offices and them feeling the peanut allergy was going to change anything in the story as it was presented in it's entirety. Same thing with the Emma question below. The real truth is it didn't matter what any of them did. A good story would have had the ebbs and flows that go with what is happening but this story clearly just had an outcome and they were going to get it anyway they could.
    It could still have happened without throwing the EXM under a bus. There was no need for the last year and half of story's and misinformation regarding Cyclops. Or just being vague and unclear what actually happened.

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    It's Cyclops/Emma's fault for not telling Storm the plan. Failure from the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDM View Post
    It's Cyclops/Emma's fault for not telling Storm the plan. Failure from the top.
    Storm figured out the plan and told Crystal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDM View Post
    It's Cyclops/Emma's fault for not telling Storm the plan. Failure from the top.
    No she choose, by herselef, to believe the Inhuman instead of her own familly. Now, she need to make it up for that by giving up her own life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDM View Post
    It's Cyclops/Emma's fault for not telling Storm the plan. Failure from the top.
    She would have told Crystal anyways.

    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    Storm figured out the plan and told Crystal.
    To be fair, that more thinking out loud than actually telling her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KusaSan View Post
    No she choose, by herselef, to believe the Inhuman instead of her own familly. Now, she need to make it up for that by giving up her own life.
    You can blame Bishop for this.


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