Detective Comics #947 preview/discussion (spoilers!)

[Caivu]

I'm actually really disappointed things went the way they did for Kate. Pretty much everything I was afraid would happen, happened.

I can't really fault Kate for doing what she did. I probably would have been right behind Luke and Jean Paul in supporting her. But damn if her totally unapologetic attitude towards the whole thing didn't make me instantly start disliking her. We get it Kate. You did what you had to do. But at least act like you didn't wanna do it. Don't make it so obvious that you're going down the path that Future Tim warned everyone about.

First off, this is in the wrong thread.

Why would she apologize? She doesn't think what she did was wrong. And she's not happy she had to do it.

[Jackalope89]

That would be awesome. Lord knows she needs a code name that doesn't sound so...ridiculous. And it'd be a neat callback to her time as Batgirl.

I'm actually really disappointed things went the way they did for Kate. Pretty much everything I was afraid would happen, happened.

I can't really fault Kate for doing what she did. I probably would have been right behind Luke and Jean Paul in supporting her. But damn if her totally unapologetic attitude towards the whole thing didn't make me instantly start disliking her. We get it Kate. You did what you had to do. But at least act like you didn't wanna do it. Don't make it so obvious that you're going down the path that Future Tim warned everyone about.

I don't know why, but after I read this and saw Cass rip off Kate's symbol, I think it would be cool for Cass to take up the Batwoman role.

Funny, I've actually come across a fanfic (take that how you will) where Cassandra actually does take up the mantle. Though, Kate doesn't (yet) exist in the story, and it takes place a number of years down the line.

[millernumber1]

Woah, accidental thread necro!

[Blue22]

First off, this is in the wrong thread.

Oh ****. Is it? I'm so sorry xD

Why would she apologize? She doesn't think what she did was wrong. And she's not happy she had to do it.

Nah, but she could at least pretend like she was sorry she had to do it. Don't get me wrong. This isn't some Civil War II nonsense where making choices for "the greater good" were obviously the wrong choices. I like Kate and I think she made the right choice (...kinda) but how she went about handling everything after that just felt...wrong. As did her apparent shock over Batman kicking her off the team (What did she think was gonna happen!? Does she not know Bruce?). The whole thing just feels like a really contrived way to get her to become the person Future Tim was trying to prevent her becoming.

[millernumber1]

Oh ****. Is it? I'm so sorry xD

Yeah, this is the thread for 947, not the issue that just came out, 974.

[scary harpy]

I don't know why, but after I read this and saw Cass rip off Kate's symbol, I think it would be cool for Cass to take up the Batwoman role.

That would be awesome. Lord knows she needs a code name that doesn't sound so...ridiculous. And it'd be a neat callback to her time as Batgirl.

Bat Noir would be a better name for Cass than Batwoman. I kinda like Orphan myself.

[scary harpy]

It's a lot more complicated than ''people hate Harper because she's new.'

The problem with Harper, and to a lesser extent Duke, is that their development was not organic. They were so obviously created to be writer's pets that it stuck out like a sore thumb, and so their accomplishments never felt earned. In contrast, a character like Stephanie Brown was created to fulfill a specific story need, to help catch Cluemaster when he stopped leaving clues, and happened to be received well enough to be brought back.

Its roman reigns syndrome. Batman team shoving Harper, Damien, Duke down our throats and we don't really care about them. We rather see characters like Stephanie, Tim, Cass. Three newer characters are not anywhere near well liked.

Don't lump Damian in with them. Damian came in as a heel, then they put him in an enjoyable tag and he got over. He was the anti-Harper and Duke.

Agreed. If anything Tim fans are just grumpy that Damian forced DC into a decision they needed to make (and fucked up) anyway. Tim brought very little to the table as "Robin: Batman's partner" and Damian did, especially in the context of where Morrison was going.

Damian is the current Robin (and proven to be a pretty profitable one at that). Of course he's gonna get all the attention he has now. Just like every Robin before him, aside from Jason, did during their tenure. The situation is totally different from Harper (which ended up not working out anyway) and Duke (which still has a chance to be something great even if he didn't start out that way)

Reading these comments tell me that there exists a glut of Bat-heroes and everyone has their own favorites...including Bluebird and Signal.

I fear for their future. I know DC has something planned. [Play ominous music here.]

[millernumber1]

Bat Noir would be a better name for Cass than Batwoman. I kinda like Orphan myself.

Ahahaha, first one I've found! I personally don't mind it too much, but I think the combination of the skull mask and the meh name didn't help. But Tynion wrote the heck out of her relationship with Basil, and that boosted her pretty high in the fandom.