Civil War II #8 (Spoilers)

[Hulkout42]

Good point!

Well there was Hulk VS IM, Avengers VS IM, Fury's candidates VS the Investigating heroes, Fury's LMD's VS Avengers...yeah that was definitely Hero VS Hero.

[Star_Jammer]

World War Hulk?

[Michael Watkins]

long past due for Zemo to do something big. Osborn, Thanos, and Doom have had their shots.

[Ken Ashcroft]

long past due for Zemo to do something big. Osborn, Thanos, and Doom have had their shots.

The original Baron Zemo? Is he back?

[Frontier]

The original Baron Zemo? Is he back?

I think he was talking about Helmut, who's showing up in Steve Rogers: Captain America book and will be playing a big role in Thunderbolts soon.

[Michael Watkins]

The original Baron Zemo? Is he back?

Helmut, the only Zemo that matters, is (as Frontier said) back in action. he's supposed to be reorganizing the Masters of Evil. he's ruled behind the scenes before. and he embarrassed S.H.I.E.L.D recently. but I think it's time that he thought bigger.

[Frontier]

Helmut, the only Zemo that matters, is (as Frontier said) back in action. he's supposed to be reorganizing the Masters of Evil. he's ruled behind the scenes before. and he embarrassed S.H.I.E.L.D recently. but I think it's time that he thought bigger.

Well, that's not really much of an accomplishment at this point .

[Handsome men don't lose fights]

I dunno...I mean, I wouldn't say that CWII is good, but to call it the worst event of all of them? When we've had the likes of CWI and freaking Avengers VS X-Men?

Now, don't get me wrong, because most of the arguments resulting from AvX were the worst things I've ever slogged through on the internet not counting Encyclopedia Dramatica, and it pretty much soured me on the X-men for years, BUT: AvX's concept alone was enough to carry the series, and it still got people excited about Marvel comics. CWII on the other hand: nooooooot so much.

I feel bad for Kelly Sue Deconnick. She did so much to elevate Carol to the upper echelon, and all that work got tossed out so that Bendis could have an unreasonable villain with paper thin motivation for her actions.

[mr_crisp]

So were those possible futures shown or just previews for Marvel's storylines this year.

[Frontier]

So were those possible futures shown or just previews for Marvel's storylines this year.

I think it's meant to be both .

[brettc1]

for how useless and ridiculous they can be.

Nothing Happened.

Well, no, not nothing.

After having just read it, I really have learned to hate Carol Danvers.

Pity. I always liked her before Civil Wars.

[Triniking1234]

Well, no, not nothing.

After having just read it, I really have learned to hate Carol Danvers.

Pity. I always liked her before Civil Wars.

You mean you hate Bendis' version of Carol Danvers.

[Iron_Legion87]

I just read issue #8. It was okay but overall I was let down by Civil War 2 as it could have been much better and it speaks volumes that some of the side issues to Civil War 2 were better than the main comics.

[brettc1]

You mean you hate Bendis' version of Carol Danvers.

Yes, though I shouldn't be surprised. The writer who has Carol telling Spider-Woman she should use her powers to commit date rape clearly has NO grasp of the character.

Sadly in this case other cannot simply ignore his poor efforts. But going forward Stohl looks to be more promising.