Deadly Class, Low, Wytches, ODY-C, Sex Criminals, Motor Crush, Seven to Eternity, I Hate Fairyland and Revival.
Deadly Class, Low, Wytches, ODY-C, Sex Criminals, Motor Crush, Seven to Eternity, I Hate Fairyland and Revival.
You are my favorite thing, Peter. My very favorite thing.
Comics were definitely happier, breezier and more confident in their own strengths before Hollywood and the Internet turned the business of writing superhero stories into the production of low budget storyboards or, worse, into conformist, fruitless attempts to impress or entertain a small group of people who appear to hate comics and their creators. -- Grant Morrison, 2008
trade-waiting - Ice Cream Man, Monstress
backlog - Blade of the Immortal, Mignolaverse, Promethea, X-Cutioner's Song
I don't hate Invincible, but holy crap is it overhyped to hell and back.
I'm not really a fan of Kirkman's work in general due to how cynical it tends to be.
Mega fan of: Helena Bertinelli (pre-52), Batwoman, Birds of Prey, Guardians of the Galaxy, Secret Six
Fan of: Batman, Cassandra Cain, Wonder Woman, Silk, Stephanie Brown, Captain America, Hellcat, Renee Montoya, Gotham Central, King Shark
Quasi-Fan of: Aquaman, Midnighter, Superman, Catwoman, Nightwing, Green Arrow, Squadron Supreme, Red Hood
Other likes: Low, Hush, Arkham Asylum: ASHoSE, Watchmen, A-Force, Bombshells, Grayson, Unfollow
Team Cap (both Rogers and Danvers)
You are not alone.
And I say this as an owner of 3 of the 4 volumes.
I will say this about Wicked + Divine, Saga, Morning Glories, Sex Criminals & Black Magic bboks-I can go to the library get any of those trades and EVERYBODY at counter loves them. And these are folks who don't CARE for comics.
In fact they are the few graphic novels- at the public library here, have copies at EVERY location. Other than Valiant, Walking Dead, Ms Marvel, Miles Morales and Star Wars can boast that.
So they are doing something right.
Image Comics - Monstress, I Hate Fairyland and The Black Monday Murders are my must haves. Also greatly enjoying Kill Or Be Killed but it's not really a must-have for me. Marvel - just Black Widow. DC - Superman and perhaps Action Comics, too.
As for the OP's question: The Walking Dead, Invincible, Wicked+Divine, Sex Criminals, Bitch Planet, Black Science, Seven to Eternity. Probably gonna be more if I actually read some others. I don't hate any of them, I just don't like them enough to continue reading. Aside from Seven to Eternity, most I read the full first volumes via comiXology Unlimited. Some via $1 Image Firsts. Seven to Eternity, I paid full cover for the #1-2 reprints + #3 and that was a waste on of money. Wish I had just waited until the first volume became available on comiXology Unlimited.
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I was unable to pick up a trade of WicDiv at my LCS and so headed to a bookshop. I thought to myself that it would be a pity I wouldn't get to have a chat with the sales assistant about how great it was. Turned out I was wrong! The sales assistant was a big fan and only the growing queue stopped us from chatting longer.
The Wicked + The Divine - I'm a little too old for this book.
Bitch Planet - It's too political.
Deadly Class - The art is gorgeous, but I find the story morose and laughably angsty.
Injection I just wasn't pulled into by the end of trade 1, same with Black Magick and Lazarus. And Chew. And Black Science. And Wytches. What can I say, I have weird taste.
And I know I'm in the minority, but I don't like McKelvie's art so WicDiv.
This, plus the cast is probably the most unlikable bunch of characters I've ever encountered, right up there with IASiP. I get that that's probably the point, but still.
Also, because I forgot to mention it earlier when I said Invincible: Why do people say it's a deconstruction of the superhero genre? Because I really didn't get that from it at all.
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Mega fan of: Helena Bertinelli (pre-52), Batwoman, Birds of Prey, Guardians of the Galaxy, Secret Six
Fan of: Batman, Cassandra Cain, Wonder Woman, Silk, Stephanie Brown, Captain America, Hellcat, Renee Montoya, Gotham Central, King Shark
Quasi-Fan of: Aquaman, Midnighter, Superman, Catwoman, Nightwing, Green Arrow, Squadron Supreme, Red Hood
Other likes: Low, Hush, Arkham Asylum: ASHoSE, Watchmen, A-Force, Bombshells, Grayson, Unfollow
Team Cap (both Rogers and Danvers)
Its not a deconstruction of the superhero genre, its a celebration of it. Kirkman always said he took everything he loves about superhero comics and put it into one book. It does try to avoid (and poke fun at) some traditional superhero cliches and tropes, but it is very proudly a superhero book.
My comicartfans.com collection. Lots of Ryan Ottley:
http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryD...asp?GCat=49719
Invincible universe wiki (work in progress):
http://invincibleuniverse.wikia.com/..._Universe_Wiki
If it's not a deconstruction, why does almost everyone say it is?
Now that I think about it, the whole "poking fun at tropes" thing is one of my biggest dislikes about the series. Too often some of the choices Kirkman makes come off as not doing a trope purely for the sake of not doing that trope, rather than because that choice is the best for the story. That doesn't mean the choices end up being bad, but the reasoning for them too often seemed like they were made only to surprise readers, or attempt to.
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Mega fan of: Helena Bertinelli (pre-52), Batwoman, Birds of Prey, Guardians of the Galaxy, Secret Six
Fan of: Batman, Cassandra Cain, Wonder Woman, Silk, Stephanie Brown, Captain America, Hellcat, Renee Montoya, Gotham Central, King Shark
Quasi-Fan of: Aquaman, Midnighter, Superman, Catwoman, Nightwing, Green Arrow, Squadron Supreme, Red Hood
Other likes: Low, Hush, Arkham Asylum: ASHoSE, Watchmen, A-Force, Bombshells, Grayson, Unfollow
Team Cap (both Rogers and Danvers)
I think I know what you are saying, and it's fine with me if you are not enjoying this book, but can I ask how old is too old? I feel like this book is right in my wheel house and I am no spring chicken. I wouldn't have considered this book to be aimed at any particular age group, although the main protagonist is clearly designed to be identifiable by the young.
I am by no means an expert on this book, (only read a few issues) but I know deconstruction when I see it and the first arc certainly has deconstructed elements, in that it breaks down and examines the assumptions of the comic medium. If you don't enjoy stories that partly set out to self referentially examine story assumptions I can certainly see why it wouldn't be for you.
I think deconstruction sometimes gets over mystified. It is important to remember deconstruction is not specifically negative or destructive. And in this context, as a casual description of an approach to writing, it isn't exactly the same as the deconstructionism of Derida and literary criticism. Although they have some elements in common, one seeks to be a form of entertainment, even if it is also examining the medium used, while the other is purely an exercise in the analysis of language and the internal assumptions of stories.
If a book is celebrating its own medium, it is by definition deconstructing on one level, because the point of the book is to reflect on its medium, and to do that it needs to draw attention to the elements and assumptions of the medium.
Put it this way, literary deconstruction is always challenging, a story based deconstruction may or may not challenge its medium. If you pull a character apart with the intention of seeing how well constructed it is, or with the intention of rebuilding it in a more sleek and essential manner, you need not be challenging or undermining that character.
From the early issues of Tom King's Batman it seems apparent he is deconstructing Batman, but he is celebrating the character. More obviously, Jason Aaron is deconstructing Thor, by seperating out and examining each element of the Thor comics, often literally. For example he is seperating Thor Odinson from the 'power of Thor' and granting that power to another, but he is doing so with a love and appreciation of Thor comics.
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