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    Most fans including myself should be able to love Diana has long has she written well.

    Pants don't really care but has long has the design is alright I'm not bothered but it feels like it's covering her up. We sadly can't find a way to not have all sides arguing. Why can't Diana just have a wardrobe. She wears certain costumes from certain missions.

    Darwyn Cooke's drawing of Diana is how she should be drawn.


    Shorts and Warskirt fit more with her Amazonian heritage but she could add some mixes ups.

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    WW should wear the same outfit all the time, she should always show skin, and NEVER wear pants unless in civilian form.

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    Gail Simone wrote the best Diana

    Nicola Scott drew the best wonder woman outfit yet with year one

    the original clay origin is the only good origin

    she has a great rogues gallery

    rucka's second run is much better than his first

    more women need to be given jobs at dc in general but esp to write her character

    She's the best fighter among the JL but she isn't the most skilled fighter(black canary, lady shiva,etc. are better)in the DCU

    She should be the second fastest JL member after Flash(i forgot about this until AmiMizuno lol)

    She shouldn't be as tall as Big Barda so either she should be 6'1 or Big Barda should be 6'5(which ever makes Big Barda taller than everyone in the trinity)

    She shouldn't be the best melee fighter just the best one batman knows. I think she should be the most well rounded but other characters like Nubia, Artemis,etc. should excel at something more than her

    She shouldn't be the strongest amazon either but she should be again the most well rounded to compensate for that

    She shouldn't be more special than the other amazons

    Her warskirt was the best addition to her character in a long time along with argus

    too many of the villains people try to make for her are pointless because Cheetah does it all and does it better along with being more well known

    She doesnt need an exploitable weakness to stay on par with superman

    she should be bulletproof

    she doesnt need to know how to fly

    the invisible jet isn't necessarily outdated
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    The Invisible Jet should be able to shapeshift into anything Diana need

    Diana should be equal to most Amazons during her time on the land just more well round

    After the contest she is giving a power boost so that's how she gets her over abilities like to fly

    Her bracelets should still be her weakness in terms of if someone wear to take them off she would go into berserk mode.


    She should be the best skilled fighter and best melee fighter in JL.

    She should be one of the best strategist and tactician

    She shouldn't be the fastest out of Superman or flash but she should be able to keep up with them just fine.
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    -The Invisible Jet is silly and useless as long as Diana can fly at the same speeds
    -The Disney toga-gods need to go away, be unique DC
    -Gods should all be morally ambiguous, all of them should have the capacity to be both helpers and adversaries to Diana
    -Most of Diana's human foes suck, bigtime
    -I'm in agreement with Morrison that since Marston's death, Diana is probably one of comics character who has the least going for her in terms of romance beyond the occasional flirting. They should change that and bring along the older kinky elements Marston had.
    -I'm of the view that the Amazons should not live in a picture perfect utopia completely isolated from the rest of the world, because as story telling tools it means you cannot do anything to or with them, which in term means they might as well join Krypton and the Waynes as memories.
    -Depicting the Amazons living in a highly polished city of white marble temples of greek design is to me unrealistic. They should have an acropolis like temple or two, but the Amazons need places to actually live in.
    -Kanga's died out for a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daBronzeBomma View Post
    I kinda feel like you meant to put a "not" between "does" and "harm"?
    I did, lol.
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    Diana is 6'2 tall

    Diana has broad and strong looking shoulders

    Diana has v-taper body

    Diana should always be drawn with 6-pack.

    Wonder Woman should not be limited to just greek mythology. Bring characters and elements from other mythologies, folklores, planets and realms.

    Wonder Woman is not captain America

    Diana prince identity is outdated and there is no point in pretending to someone you are not.

    Her classic villains suck and are liability to franchise.

    Wonder Woman vs dr psycho, Priscilla, mask or any of her classic human rogues is like big gorilla armed chainsaw and flamethrower vs aborted fetuses. It makes her look like a mentally challenged bully who can't figure out how to take them out in one panel.

    Donna and Cassie are teen titans characters, they were created to serve titans franchise because they needed mini Wonder Woman.

    Wonder Woman should not be committed to anyone.

    Steve trevor should be given his own comic where he leads his argus team against various DCU organisation.

    Best way to expand Wonder Woman franchise is through Amazons, Olympians and Steve trevor/Argus not Donna and Cassie.

    Circe, Ares and Apollo should be her top 3 villains.
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    The Amazons, including Wonder Woman, shouldn't be in attractive to us. It makes no sense, these people have been away from men for thousands of years yet artists draw them as perfectly conforming to 21st Century patriarchal beauty standards.

    I'm sure very few people will agree with me but that's what this thread is for.

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    - Rucka's current Rebirth run has been mediocre at best.

    - Like the idea of Wonder Woman having a twin brother. If done right, very few female heroines have male sidekicks that look up to them. That will be breaking new ground. This is all under the assumption that her brother is a good guy and not some generic "evil twin" trope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daBronzeBomma View Post
    Wonder Woman having a biological father does NOT taint her origin anymore than Superman or Batman having a mom taints their origins.
    Superman and Batman always had a Mother, so this is a fake equivalency,

    Wonder Woman universe should stop adding unecessary male characters and fathers just to make men feel like they belong to the property
    Wonder Woman is a female centric property and should continue to be like it
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    1,) Wonder Woman's personality should be more like her Justice League Action personality: brash, cocky, even a little arrogant at times. She's freaking WONDER WOMAN. She's the greatest female character in all of comics. She should be aware of that and she should love being that.

    2.) Diana's rogues don't all need to be powerful enough to hurt her. Wonder Woman is an idealistic character. An enemy who challenges her ideals, if not her power, is still a fascinating character. For those weaker characters, the story shouldn't be about Diana facing them in combat. It should be about creating a moral quandary for Diana and seeing her work her way out of it while staying true to her ideals.

    3.) I would be okay with the idea of reducing Diana's power level to more of a mid-tier level IF Diana had a Batman-level arsenal of magical artifacts that compensate for her lower power and still allowed her to be relevant in battles against the most powerful Big Bads in the DCU. The idea of Diana being a halfway-point between Batman and Superman could be really interesting.

    4.) In the Justice League, Diana should be the League's chief strategist. Military strategy has NOTHING to do with Batman's gimmick and it makes no sense for him to be the only Leaguer with battle tactics that work. Diana, on the other hand, has studied the arts of war her entire life. She should be the League's general. Batman supplies the tech and the psychological insight into the villains they fight. Superman supplies the raw power and the morale boost necessary to inspire the "troops" to fight on.

    Addendum: Diana should also be the League's chief diplomat and should seek peaceful resolutions to the League's battles when possible.

    5.) Diana should be one of the greatest melee and unarmed fighters in the DCU. Take her powers away and she should still be able to make Batman sweat blood in a fight, even if she doesn't win in the end.

    6.) The Amazons should be promoted to one of the most powerful military powers in the DCU. In the Marvel Universe, it was long believed that Wakanda could pretty easily defeat the USA in a war. The Amazons should be the "Wakanda" of the DCU. They should have soldiers who are among the best fighters in the DCU and their weapons and tactics should make world leaders pee themselves when considering the prospect of going up against them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rig View Post
    Donna and Cassie are teen titans characters, they were created to serve titans franchise because they needed mini Wonder Woman.
    Donna, maybe. Cassie? Nope. She was first created in Diana's book and served as a member of her supporting cast. The fact that other writers didn't want to use her is no indicator of DC's intent for the character. It just shows the problem that has plagued Diana for most of her history: DC needs to stop letting every writer just ignore or wipe out the work of the previous writers. (The exception of course being if that past work has proven actually detrimental to Diana. *Cough*Azzarello*Cough)

    Best way to expand Wonder Woman franchise is through Amazons, Olympians and Steve trevor/Argus not Donna and Cassie.
    Why not all the above? Donna and Cassie are Amazons.
    Though much is taken, much abides; and though
    We are not now that strength which in old days
    Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are,
    One equal temper of heroic hearts,
    Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
    To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.

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    Wonder Woman villains are terrible.
    Cheetah is by far the worst and should be a stuffed trophy living in Deathstrokes house.
    Wonder Woman creators, writers, fans etc are very insecure and touchy about her being over shadowed. It's why the Wonder Girls are never important to the WW mythology, it's why there are no important male characters and it's why she is constantly being judged with respect to Superman and even the chief reason for her villains being awful.
    Wonder Woman books should focus on finding a genre and tone instead of trying to preach.

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    She should be taller than everyone.

    Wonder Girl/Cassie being the daughter of Lennox (and Lennox as a character himself) is most likely the most interesting addition to WW.

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    Wonder Woman should be a rebel of sorts. She's well-versed in Amazonian law and philosophy, but doesn't readily buy into it. Compare this to things like the 2009 animated movie in which she spouts Amazonian ideals and is proven to be wrong. I'd rather see stories in which her Amazonian sisters tell her this and that, and her initial response should be skepticism. This is not to insist that the Amazons are a backwards people, either. The bigger point is that she's not so ready to accept things she's told when she'd rather figure things out for herself.

    The Amazons should have secret science laboratories underground. They may appear to live in technologically stagnant society, but that's because they're environmentalists/naturalists and purposefully limit how much manufacturing they do. But, they actually try to broaden their scientific knowledge.

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