Peter, Mary Jane and Annie-May Parker: Renew Your Vows Appreciation 2018

[Digifiend]

If true, I knew shifting to a Spider-Girl 2.0 dynamic was a mistake.

Seems that way. If they want to bring Annie to 616 as part of an OMD revert, she'll need de-aging back to the 8 year old version, as the maths don't add up for the teenager (616 Peter is too young and didn't have his powers yet 17 years ago when MJ would've got pregnant with Annie).

[Celgress]

Seems that way. If they want to bring Annie to 616 as part of an OMD revert, she'll need de-aging back to the 8 year old version, as the maths don't add up for the teenager (616 Peter is too young and didn't have his powers yet 17 years ago when MJ would've got pregnant with Annie).

Most definitely Annie would have to revert to her precocious eight-year-old self, which I would be okay with. A spider-powered kid is a relatively fresh idea and could be used in many different ways when compared to the plethora of spider-themed adults we have in the 616 Universe, which has almost become a trope at this point due to oversaturation.

[Lukmendes]

Seems that way. If they want to bring Annie to 616 as part of an OMD revert, she'll need de-aging back to the 8 year old version, as the maths don't add up for the teenager (616 Peter is too young and didn't have his powers yet 17 years ago when MJ would've got pregnant with Annie).

Man, just the return of marriage in 616 is far fetched enough, 616 Spidey with a kid is like, Bendis writing small ammounts of dialogue and respecting continuity he didn't make, lol.

Either way, if RYV really is cancelled, can't say I'm surprised, the problem isn't the time skip itself, something feels off about the comic since the writters behind it changed, can't put a finger on what though.

[WebLurker]

Seems that way. If they want to bring Annie to 616 as part of an OMD revert, she'll need de-aging back to the 8 year old version, as the maths don't add up for the teenager (616 Peter is too young and didn't have his powers yet 17 years ago when MJ would've got pregnant with Annie).

Why would Marvel want to put Annie in 616 a la Superman Rebirth? If anything, they're even more hostile to that version being a father than they are to him being a husband.

[Digifiend]

Superman Reborn, you mean. And you forget, new writer, new editor in chief. The rules may have changed.

[WebLurker]

Superman Reborn, you mean. And you forget, new writer, new editor in chief. The rules may have changed.

What about Dan Slott's assurances that this was something that could not be changed ever ever ever, even if all the Powers That Be wanted to?

[Miles To Go]

What about Dan Slott's assurances that this was something that could not be changed ever ever ever, even if all the Powers That Be wanted to?

He's Dan Slott. Hyperbole merchant and, by his own very recent admission, consummate bullshitter.

[Kevinroc]

I could see Peter and MJ romantically involved again (because COMICS!), but I'm not gonna hold my breath waiting for the marriage to come back.

[WebLurker]

He's Dan Slott. Hyperbole merchant and, by his own very recent admission, consummate bullshitter.

Agreed that he's proven to be full of hyperbole and crap, but still, while I think that "never" was always a load of bull, I do have to agree that Marvel has remained consistent on the point that, for 616 Spidey, the marriage was a huge mistake and OMD made Spidey great again. The point is, I don't see them backing down from that premise anytime soon, esp. since they've proven that ASM can still survive without that piece in place.

[Celgress]

What about Dan Slott's assurances that this was something that could not be changed ever ever ever, even if all the Powers That Be wanted to?

Exhibit A Ben Reilly says hi.

[Miles To Go]

since they've proven that ASM can still survive without that piece in place.

ASM makes money despite itself. It's ASM.

[WebLurker]

Exhibit A Ben Reilly says hi.

Ben Reilly wasn't embargoed and the subject of a multi-year propaganda program to justify it in the first place. Current management has made it no secret that they think the marriage ruined ASM and there's no reason to believe that they'd recant it now. If there's ever a total change in the membership of the Powers That Be, then I'd buy it.

ASM makes money despite itself. It's ASM.

Obviously. However, the point still remains, if they can sell ASM without the marriage and don't want it around, why would they want to put it back in place?

[Celgress]

Ben Reilly wasn't embargoed and the subject of a multi-year propaganda program to justify it in the first place. Current management has made it no secret that they think the marriage ruined ASM and there's no reason to believe that they'd recant it now. If there's ever a total change in the membership of the Powers That Be, then I'd buy it...

Maybe not officially, but the character was certainly treated as toxic by the office due to the negative reaction amongst fans to the original Clone Saga for the better part of twenty years. That is no secret.

[DragonPiece]

What about Dan Slott's assurances that this was something that could not be changed ever ever ever, even if all the Powers That Be wanted to?

Yeah, after Dan Slott lying about wanting to write ASM forever on here for the past few years, I don't really trust anything he's said at this point.

[Starrius]

I could see Peter and MJ romantically involved again (because COMICS!), but I'm not gonna hold my breath waiting for the marriage to come back.

It will never come back as long as the Quesada regime is intact.