All New X-men #17 (spoilers)

[jwatson]

I don't think they'll go there, well, Hopeless said he wouldn't, even though he's kinda...eh. As some have said on his first appearance, that could feel rapey.

i agree but if he is not doing it purposefully it could be interesting and explain a lot. Definitely it would need to be revealed before they got intimate if that is the case. The big thing for me is teen or no Bobby's behavior was jarring. A few dates and he is so head over heels about this guy that he is willing to fight against the O5 he came to the future with on Romeo's word. I would expect Hopeless to be a little more of a seasoned writer than that. It just didn't feel real to me.

I also get the Bobby is a teen thing but so were we all and no one ever had my head that turned.

[jwatson]

"This is what happens when you mess with people's minds, Teen Jean!!!" Better? Sorry, I'm just not getting any 'gay = bad' here. I'm getting 'Jeen's mind control = bad'.
If Angel has fallen in love with an Inhuman woman then ran off with her instead of trying to save his friends and mutants in general, I'd probably have gone with, "That's what you get for giving people cosmic power, Black Vortex!" Anyhoo... I'm done trying to rationalize a joke. Bobby acted foolishly. Back to Hitler Summers...

The "bad" lies in the insinuation that Jean "made" Iceman gay. When in fact she just told him something he didn't want to admit to himself.

[Wiccan]

"This is what happens when you mess with people's minds, Teen Jean!!!" Better? Sorry, I'm just not getting any 'gay = bad' here. I'm getting 'Jeen's mind control = bad'.
If Angel had fallen in love with an Inhuman woman then ran off with her instead of trying to save his friends and mutants in general, I'd probably have gone with, "That's what you get for giving people cosmic power, Black Vortex!" Anyhoo... I'm done trying to rationalize a joke that people are reading far too much into. Bobby acted foolishly. Back to Hitler Summers...

I know you probably didn't meant it, that's why I didn't said anything at first, but it kinda did came off that way. And Jean's Mind Control? I won't even bother.

[ZNOP]

not for me.

and what later? after 2 weeks one of them will be dead.

She is in IvX4 preview.
Someone should coordinate attacks. Storm can't because she is leading main forces. Emma can't because she is attacking BB.
Rogue is doing her job.

Then Romeo commits suicide -- isn't that what's suppose to happen?

[Wiccan]

Then Romeo commits suicide -- isn't that what's suppose to happen?

That's bad advice for gays.

[Xelossik]

That's bad advice for gays.

You can't ignore Your problems. Bobby has a problem with Terrigen. He needs to do something. Running away is bad.

I think that this is good message.

[jwatson]

You can't ignore Your problems. Bobby has a problem with Terrigen. He needs to do something. Running away is bad.

I think that this is good message.

Apparently in this case he gets away with it. I mean he gets to sit out the battle and then go heroing on X-men Blue after the x-men do all the heavy lifting. lol.

Some of the posts in this thread does make me wonder what the inhuman stance is on gay inhumans though. I mean if everything that matters to them is their culture and obtaining power how do they reconcile that with potential genes not being passed on.

[Xelossik]

Apparently in this case he gets away with it. I mean he gets to sit out the battle and then go heroing on X-men Blue after the x-men do all the heavy lifting. lol.

You are right but that's part of the reason why i didn't enjoy this issue.

[anthony_lynch15]

It was not a bad story and not blame the young Bobby after all he is in love. But the fact that Crystal and his crew were there in the battle at Atilan when Magneto caught them in Limbo shows how many editors and writers do not have much communication.

Or maybe this story was written before Soule and Lemire changed the story in DoX and the first issue of IvX has been released.


I still wonder what marvel editors do all day .

LOL, yeah there was a few continuity gaps in this issue.

I'm gonna repost what I put in the Cyke appreciation thread...

I'm thinking there has to be an inhuman whose power is superhuman propaganda - the ability to make people who actually saw the events be convinced that the version coming out of New Attilan is what really happened and not what they saw.

It makes more sense than anything coming out of Marvel about it.

Seems plausible to me.

I enjoyed the issue for the most part.
Nice to see Bobby & the others having some down time in the first three dates - before the inevitably getting caught up in the IvX fistycuffs.
Also Bagley's art is great as always.

Here's my mini summary for the issue:

[Michael Watkins]

i feel dirty for having read this. the writing is just soo amateurish. how did they manage to make this new relationship more cringy than older Bobby and Opal?

[jwatson]

LOL, yeah there was a few continuity gaps in this issue.


Seems plausible to me.

I enjoyed the issue for the most part.
Nice to see Bobby & the others having some down time in the first three dates - before the inevitably getting caught up in the IvX fistycuffs.
Also Bagley's art is great as always.

Here's my mini summary for the issue:

Queue Uncanny Inhumans where MAximus broke out Triton in todays issue. LMAO editorial really isn't even trying. Then on top of it all maximus had to do was get in touch with an old scientist and poof he has the formula for terrigen crystals. Guess the inhumans really didn't do much.

[Calaigah]

Queue Uncanny Inhumans where MAximus broke out Triton in todays issue. LMAO editorial really isn't even trying. Then on top of it all maximus had to do was get in touch with an old scientist and poof he has the formula for terrigen crystals. Guess the inhumans really didn't do much.

Lol at the fact that the villain of the Inhumans is more heroic than anyone in the Royal Family.

[anthony_lynch15]

Queue Uncanny Inhumans where MAximus broke out Triton in todays issue. LMAO editorial really isn't even trying. Then on top of it all maximus had to do was get in touch with an old scientist and poof he has the formula for terrigen crystals. Guess the inhumans really didn't do much.

I just read Uncanny Inhumans and thought..."dammit all to...."

[anthony_lynch15]

I just read Uncanny Inhumans and thought..."dammit all to...."

Fixed it

[Dante Milton]

Thought it was a cute issue. I would probably have had a different opinion if I had any investment in IvX, but I just don't care about that event at all. I like that they chose not to stay involved in the fight, it kind of points out the stupidity of how these types of events limit the options to 'we must fight now'. The Scott stuff is dumb, yes, but it is also consistent. As weird as the reaction to what Scott did is/was, it would be even weirder to me if characters were suddenly okay with everything even though they haven't learned any new or mitigating information.