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    Quote Originally Posted by cc008 View Post
    No. I want an O5 that's been around the block. I want an O5 that I've grown with and made connections with. I want an O5 that has gone their separate ways to come back and join together in a time where the X-Men need to remember what they've been fighting for. I want an O5 that'll come together and show that they've gone through so much throughout the years and they'd still fight for each other like a family, because that's what they are. Not this angsty, teen, whiny, bitchy, BS that's going on in All-New X-Men. Send them home.

    #NotMyO5
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    Reason I'm not buying X-men Blue. Enough is enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cc008 View Post
    I gotcha I gotcha lol

    Bobby's sexuality and representation is a separate issue/discussion/whatever you want to call it for me. This (the young O5 being here still) is something else entirely.
    I am sure if I read current books, it might irritate me some to see them taking all the spotlight from characters I really would rather see get some shine.

    I would love nothing more than to have Skids be in something, or Northstar, or Dani Moonstar.
    And not white bread O5.
    I love that.
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    Wait.
    Who is in the blue book?
    "All it takes for sexism to prosper is for good men to see nothing."

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Phenom2893 View Post
    I co-signed this.
    #NotMyO5

    Reason I'm not buying X-men Blue. Enough is enough.
    Bunn would KILL it with the adult group together.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Water View Post
    Wait.
    Who is in the blue book?
    Blue is the young O5, mentored by Magneto, written by Cullen Bunn. Basically the next volume of All-New X-Men.

    A real call back to the original Blue team

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    The thing that gets me the most about them, the part that I really don't get is this:

    Okay, so they're the X-men from the past. That's the whole hook of them, right? So why don't they LOOK like the X-men from the past? You'd think is somebody wanted to stress the point that these were characters from the past, that they wouldn't completely resign them with new costumes. Put them team in the original team uniform, or their first set of individual costumes if you want people to know they're the old guys. Instead, they took the old versions of the characters and dressed them like new versions of the characters, defeating the whole point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cc008 View Post
    Bunn would KILL it with the adult group together.



    Blue is the young O5, mentored by Magneto, written by Cullen Bunn. Basically the next volume of All-New X-Men.

    A real call back to the original Blue team
    Just the O5?
    And Magneto?
    That's it?
    Surely they do not think that will sell well?
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    Omg, wait, tho:
    If they were written like they were in X-Factor, with allll the glorious damn drama.

    I would eat that **** up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan2099 View Post
    The thing that gets me the most about them, the part that I really don't get is this:

    Okay, so they're the X-men from the past. That's the whole hook of them, right? So why don't they LOOK like the X-men from the past? You'd think is somebody wanted to stress the point that these were characters from the past, that they wouldn't completely resign them with new costumes. Put them team in the original team uniform, or their first set of individual costumes if you want people to know they're the old guys. Instead, they took the old versions of the characters and dressed them like new versions of the characters, defeating the whole point.
    They actually look like they've gotten YOUNGER since the first volume of Bendis' ANXM. Marvel really wants to hammer home the point that it's another teen/kid book.





    Granted... there's Stuart Immonen, and then there's everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Water View Post
    Just the O5?
    And Magneto?
    That's it?
    Surely they do not think that will sell well?
    That's exactly what it is.. its' basically All-New X-Men relaunched again haha

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    [QUOTE=cc008;2563253]Bunn would KILL it with the adult group together.

    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Water View Post
    Becausssseeeee more than just white cishet males deserve proper representation in our funny books?
    That's not what this is about.
    It's not about identity politics or representation in funny books.
    It's about the characters that started and made the x-men.
    And why is it a problem that people want to still read about them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Water View Post
    Omg, wait, tho:
    If they were written like they were in X-Factor, with allll the glorious damn drama.

    I would eat that **** up.
    Well, Jean and Hank sort of have the same costume that they had on X-Factor minus the cowls.

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    I dont hate the 05. The original X-Factor was some of my favorite comics ever and I thought Bendis 05 had its charm but I think it made people who are more fans of All New All Different resentful because they started taking a backseat to them. Also, ANAD was when they started showcasing more characters of color, women and characters from other countries and some felt the 05 were a step back with diversity. It can also be said simply that its just a retread of the same old same old and running on pure nostalgia while not offering much substance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbm721 View Post
    That's not what this is about.
    It's not about identity politics or representation in funny books.
    It's about the characters that started and made the x-men.
    And why is it a problem that people want to still read about them?
    It isn't.
    You have books with all the other characters in them.
    What is your complaint again?
    You do not have enough books with the adult characters in them?
    How many x-books are there right now?

    I mean, considering how many mutant characters there are, we are not all gonna get what we want.
    I want Dani Moonstar and Skids.
    Where are they?
    I don't know, but they are not in an x-book.
    "All it takes for sexism to prosper is for good men to see nothing."

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbm721 View Post
    That's not what this is about.
    It's not about identity politics or representation in funny books.
    It's about the characters that started and made the x-men.
    And why is it a problem that people want to still read about them?
    Who is stopping you?

    Has Marvel stopped publishing the original characters? No.

    Has anyone come by your place and stolen your copies and threatened you into not procuring more? No.

    Is there a national or local ban on you buying or borrowing these comics to read them? Probably not.

    If you want to read a comic about Iceman before/who never was brought to the present as a teenager, that Iceman exists and there are comics about him. If you want to read about a Cyclops before he - or who never was - brought to the present as a teenager, that Cyclops totally exists and has been featured in literally hundreds of comics.

    There is nothing from stopping you from reading those comics.
    Patsy Walker on TV! Patsy Walker in new comics! Patsy Walker in your brain! And Jessica Jones is the new Nancy! (Oh, and read the Comics Cube.)

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