Pre-Crisis Darkseid vs Odin(Marvel)

[Username taken]

I thought Surtur destroyed Beta Ray Bill's galaxy while forging the Twilight Sword. My memory is fuzzy but I vaguely recall something like that happening.

Also, Odin wrestled a sentient galaxy sized storm and put it in mjolnir. It's one of those evolving Asgardian myths but I think it's Jason Aaron's way of explaining why Odin can't wield mjolnir now.

[Siriel]

Isn't current Odin weaker than Jane Foster because of reasons? I'm pretty sure PC Darkseid would win that fight.

[Cody]

I thought Surtur destroyed Beta Ray Bill's galaxy while forging the Twilight Sword. My memory is fuzzy but I vaguely recall something like that happening.

Also, Odin wrestled a sentient galaxy sized storm and put it in mjolnir. It's one of those evolving Asgardian myths but I think it's Jason Aaron's way of explaining why Odin can't wield mjolnir now.

Is Odin stronger than this "Surtur" or something?

[Guy Smiley]

Is Odin stronger than this "Surtur" or something?

Depicted as roughly equivalent, IIRC. In Thor #352 the two have a knock-down, drag-out battle with both sides fielding magical artifacts that cloud the issue some more. (Surtur wins by using the Casket of Ancient Winters to freeze Odin solid.)

Here's Surtur creating interdimensional shockwaves with his attack:

[Sharpandpointies]

I'm pretty sure that Odin - Galaxy-Buster was debated on the old board. Enough evidence was trotted out to show that yes, that was valid.

Yes, chunks of the evidence included Narrator comments about the Multiverse quaking, distant galaxies being destroyed, etc. But when that kind of thing isn't being contradicted, it should be fine for evidence. Given that Odin did stuff like casually teleporting populations of entire planets (of course, he actually has to say 'Look at me, I'm going to do something awesome!' first), duke it out with Galactus and not do horribly, treat the Surfer like utter trash, and beatdown Thanos without actually getting hurt, it's not exactly against his presentation (I'm not talking modern Odin, I have no idea where that guy stands powerwise).

Also throwing down with Surtur, who has busted a galaxy (as I recall) and created interdimensional shockwaves.

Also being shown as Dormammu's opposite number on the Law/Chaos axis, at a time when Dormammu was doing stuff like 'Warp entire dimensions into Dark Dimensions, break up entire dimensions because he's throwing a hissy fit, etc'.

I'm personally pretty cool with Old School Odin being a galaxy buster (mileage, varies, etc).

If he has been depowered recently, that's a different story.

[Anarchist]

Yeah, I remember that debate back from the old board.

It was decided in favour of Odin.

[Dr Will Hatch]

I wondered if that galactic feat was an outlier especially if he only did something like that once and it wasn't a lifeless plot device galaxy there purely for him to destroy minus any consequences.

Well, that feat did destroy the homeworld of Beta Ray Bill, didn't it?