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    Question What happened to the Inhumans' Alpha Primitives?

    Ever since Marvel started giving Inhumans their big push, they just disappeared. Did anything happen to them or is Marvel just pretending they don't exist because the Inhumans having a slave caste makes them look bad?


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    When the Inhumans moved Attilan to the Blue Area of the Moon, back in Fantastic Four #240 (1982), Black Bolt had them leave the tunnels under Attilan where they'd lived (having already been freed from servitude years before), and they dispersed either into the surrounding area, or the surrounding sub-terranean area (assuming that the Himalyas have a 'sub-terra,' a la the Mole Man's lands under the northeastern US).

    Various other stories have contradicted this, since then, so who knows. They are supposed to be both short-lived and entirely incapable of reproducing themselves, as well as mostly incapable of developing any sort of new techniques or behaviors (such as hunting for survival), so it would make logical sense for them to all have died within a month of Black Bolt 'freeing' them, since they are about as capable of providing for their own survival as a handful of day old kittens tossed into a snowbank (having grown up in a Star Trek like city, where food comes out of dispenser slots when you push a button, and concepts like having to hunt for food, or find shelter from those warm and toasty Himalyan nights would be utterly beyond them).

    They were kind of a terrible idea, one that was very quickly abandoned (it's been literal *decades* since this was a thing), and even the attempt to abandon it was pretty much 'hey, let's kick them all out of the only home they've ever known and send them all away to die of exposure and starvation!', so it's probably best to spit on the ground and speak of it no more.

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    They appeared in Shields of Agents as mindless slaves of Hive.

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    How long i know, they were freed in a forest or something like that.

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    Last I heard, They're chilling with Gorgons daughter Alecto on the blue area of the moon. Though Sutekh is right. Let's not speak of it anymore.
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    Don't they already look pretty bad for releasing the cloud? Although this was brought up a lot on discussions, and it made them look worse indeed.

    I've always had an aversion to that kind of government system they have, and the way their society is organized.

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    Apparently Realm of Kings is the last time they're seen. I know there was an Alpha Primitive preserve or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dum Dum Dugan View Post
    Ever since Marvel started giving Inhumans their big push, they just disappeared. Did anything happen to them or is Marvel just pretending they don't exist because the Inhumans having a slave caste makes them look bad?
    How will this make the Inhumans look bad? They are a byproduct of experiment from the Kree who wanted to make them their slave soldiers, they practiced Eugenics and their goverment used to be thru a Genetics Council. I don't think they will ever look good to anyone and especially not to most X-Fans. I don't even think Marvel is trying to make them look good or heroic one either likes their stories or they don't. There is no middle ground with the Inhumans
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    Yeah, the Alpha Primitives don't make the Inhuman Royal Family look bad. They are the ones who essentially freed them.

    It's a story about guilt, about the sins of the past generation haunting the new generation. It's about the younger, more progressive youth fixing the errors of their ancestors.

    I feel like the only times the Alphas get brought up is to insinuate that Marvel's trying to sweep them under the rug because slavery in their past would make them hard to sell as "The New X-Men"... Newsflash: the Inhumans have over half a century of history and lore. They aren't the X-Men and they never will be; look to Inhumans fans and you'll find see that we're satisfied. If the Inhumans concept was being distorted or molded into something it shouldn't be, we would be the first to let y'all know. Other than the normal amount of All-New, All-Different era changing-things-up-ness that has effected every property, the Inhumans are still the same at their core: a bunch of weirdos who live in an inverse of the rest of the Marvel World, where diversity means equality and powered people are the majority, while the powerless are a minority. It's a fascinating dynamic.
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    Except even after they were freed, they were still on the lowest caste of society as the scan shows. Not to mention Inhumans and Alpha Primitives interacting was looked down upon, which is what happened with Gorgon's daughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dum Dum Dugan View Post
    Ever since Marvel started giving Inhumans their big push, they just disappeared. Did anything happen to them or is Marvel just pretending they don't exist because the Inhumans having a slave caste makes them look bad?

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    I have a wonderment about this question;

    Was it asked cause your are Generally Interested in Learning the Answer to Expanded you Mind and Comic Book knowledge on apart of the Marvel Universe?!

    Or is this just Another form of Comic Book Politics that have become All to Often on these boards and in Fandoms in General to Just Side hit on the Inhumans again to say they don't Deserve this Push cause of these parts of their history and the X-Men Controversies many keep saying?

    Please Clarify?
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    Nice false dilemma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dum Dum Dugan View Post
    Nice false dilemma.
    Not Really, it is more apart of what I am coming to see more of as an ideal as a Comic Fan More of these days.

    It seems like to many fans around these parts and I am sure other parts too. It is the Lost of their ideals of Adventure and Sense of Expanding their Fandoms with new teams and titles. Not saying some all don't do that on a level at times, but it seems that the Ideals of Personal Fandom Politics has taken over more in thread discussions then a general idealism of Interest, Expansion and Debate to LEAD to a Growth of ones fandom and general curiosity.

    I have not read these stories yet about the Alpha Primitives, but I am sure I will soon down the line and I will find them interesting and expansive into the Marvel History as with any history in Marvel. I am sure an explanation to their current state is their too, but I want to LEARN about that and give the ideals that as many have said here it is a finished story.

    But what I see here is an ever continuing expansion in saying, to those that are the ones invested in Inhumans the most, that story is Not done and is it covering up by Marvel?! Well, then we get into the intent of where this debate is going then don't we;

    Are we TRYING to get another Answer to a Story many say is really done, is this about Expensive Curiosity to learn more?!

    Or is this something else, cause it seems that way as well, as another Never Ending Debate to say something negative on the Inhuman's, cause that is where it seems this debate is going, AGAIN, like all these so called debates seem to go.
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    CJStriker The Intent is blatantly obvious but it's kind of cute participating in the charade.

    Question: How would one classify the Alpha Primitive?
    I haven't read a lot on the AP but what is their degree of sapience and sentience. If we were to compare them to AI like Vision (is he sentient?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeathGods View Post
    CJStriker The Intent is blatantly obvious but it's kind of cute participating in the charade.

    Question: How would one classify the Alpha Primitive?
    I haven't read a lot on the AP but what is their degree of sapience and sentience. If we were to compare them to AI like Vision (is he sentient?)
    They were originally portrayed as having limited intelligence, but in a storyline in the Marvel Knights FF series it was suggested that they were starting to evolve, and we met one who had human-levels of intelligence.


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