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    Quote Originally Posted by LoganAlpha30X33 View Post
    My question is what will/would happen if/when say Agents of Shield gets cancelled and the Inhumans show does as well if Marvel will drop the big push that they're giving the Inhumans, which imho is greatly due to the fact that Marvel owns their rights fully and doesn't with the X-men, otherwise the X-men would have been on Agents of Shield instead of the Inhumans one could argue...

    That being said ignoring the slaves to make the Inhumans look better is like trying to make a German company look better and just not telling people that the company worked closely with the Nazi's in WW2 and act like it shouldn't make any difference...
    They aren't slaves anymore, because the current inhuman royal family freed them.

    What more do you want?

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    It doesn't change the fact that they were slaves and that the Inhumans now are trying to act like it never happened and that the slaves never existed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoganAlpha30X33 View Post
    It doesn't change the fact that they were slaves and that the Inhumans now are trying to act like it never happened and that the slaves never existed...
    Again, what more do you want?

    They're free off doing their own thing, it's not the job of the Inhumans books to check in with them. If you want an alpha primitives book, go hassle Marvel rather than expecting the Inhumans books to rehash a completed plot.

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    Because if Marvel is writing them out like they never existed it's an effort to whitewash the Inhumans past to make them look better...

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    nvm nvm nvm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Fist View Post
    I dont see how? They're free, the genetic council are gone. That's the end of their story, why can't an arc end? It doesn't have to be rehashed two hundred times, that's how you end up like the x-books.
    Did you read the scan on the first page?


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    Quote Originally Posted by LoganAlpha30X33 View Post
    Because if Marvel is writing them out like they never existed it's an effort to whitewash the Inhumans past to make them look better...
    How is not rehashing a completed plot whitewashing anyone?

    The alpha primitives are weak background characters at best, they were never central to Inhumans book unless the plot needed them. So this idea you're floating they're a key element of the Inhumans franchise is frankly bullshit, they were supporting characters, they got a happy ending, they're off living it.

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    That's kind of like saying why do we still talk about slavery in the US, because it affects what came after it...so because they weren't central and such they don't matter...and where do I even come close to raising even the idea of them being a key element, rather I raise the point that they happened and it proves that the Inhumans aren't as holy as many claim them to be, it's like they got a rebranding recently and anything that didn't go along with that new look and outlook just got tossed aside...happy ending to you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoganAlpha30X33 View Post
    That's kind of like saying why do we still talk about slavery in the US, because it affects what came after it...so because they weren't central and such they don't matter...and where do I even come close to raising even the idea of them being a key element, rather I raise the point that they happened and it proves that the Inhumans aren't as holy as many claim them to be, it's like they got a rebranding recently and anything that didn't go along with that new look and outlook just got tossed aside...happy ending to you...
    Your cynicism once again goes contrary to the facts.

    The Alpha primitives have been free from slavery since 1974 and they've been free to continue working in Attilan or leave. As of 2005, most of them were on an island with Gorgon's daughter.

    So they weren't brushed to the side to white wash the Inhumans, their storyline was wrapped up. And wrapped up long before the Inhuman push at Marvel.

    And they aren't central, so no they don't matter. Maybe stop comparing it to slavery in the US?

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    They were brushed aside if the Inhumans and such don't admit that they happened at all and that they never had slaves because they'd never do something like that and that they're better than that...and even after being freed they were still kept down and treated as less than second class citizens...so no it's still not wrapped up, just like slavery in the US wasn't wrapped up just because they were freed, not saying that their former slaves are central to the Inhumans but they're beings that shouldn't be forgotten about or covered up simply because they're not a nice memory and don't help the image that the Inhumans now want to portray to the world...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Fist View Post
    Your cynicism once again goes contrary to the facts.

    The Alpha primitives have been free from slavery since 1974 and they've been free to continue working in Attilan or leave. As of 2005, most of them were on an island with Gorgon's daughter.
    Crystal said it was a compound where Inhumans and Alpha Primitives could intermingle, but also described it as a fringe group. There was nothing to suggest most of the Alpha Primitives went there.

    So they weren't brushed to the side to white wash the Inhumans, their storyline was wrapped up. And wrapped up long before the Inhuman push at Marvel.

    And they aren't central, so no they don't matter. Maybe stop comparing it to slavery in the US?
    Then why did Soule say he was going to have Medusa looking for them, before dropping the storyline?

    And why were they completely erased from the Unspoken's origin when he came back?

    And slavery is slavery. Of course the two are going to be compared, I'm sure that was the writers' intent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoganAlpha30X33 View Post
    They were brushed aside if the Inhumans and such don't admit that they happened at all and that they never had slaves because they'd never do something like that and that they're better than that...and even after being freed they were still kept down and treated as less than second class citizens...so no it's still not wrapped up, just like slavery in the US wasn't wrapped up just because they were freed, not saying that their former slaves are central to the Inhumans but they're beings that shouldn't be forgotten about or covered up simply because they're not a nice memory and don't help the image that the Inhumans now want to portray to the world...
    When have the present day Inhumans ever denied their past with the slavery culture they inherited? I'd love to see scans.

    Again, you're insisting it's the job of the Inhumans books to check in and track their progress, when it's not. If that's what you want go lobby Marvel for an alpha primitive book rather than taking offense at things characters never said or because events you wanted to happen never happened.

    I'm out.

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    Their history of slavery would have to be acknowledged before they could actually deny it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dum Dum Dugan View Post
    Their history of slavery would have to be acknowledged before they could actually deny it.
    This isn't history.

    Its a comic book.

    If a comic book was called "history of the Inhumans" then yes, it should be brought up.

    But the "alpha primitive" chapter of the inhumans closed over a decade ago, long before any big inhuman push. So unless a writer has a new interesting story to tell with them, there is no reason to bring them back up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Fist View Post
    they didn't disappear, they were on an island with Gorgon's daughter?

    No, I think it was explored. Alpha primitives stories have been done to death, from revolts to being freed, to their transition issues to being free, to an inhuman going through terrigenesis and becoming an alpha primitive (which was maximus being a dick). Alpha primitive stories aren't necessary, it's been done.


    It's much the same with the X-Men and the phoenix, everyone rolled their eyes and groaned when they announced the phoenix is coming back in the jean grey solo, that'd be the same feeling for inhumans fans for bringing back the alpha primitives again just because they can.
    Sadly, I did indeed groan when I read that announcement... I clearly remembering smh and saying "they just can't help themselves...", hh!
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