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    If it takes 8 months for molocules of Terrigen to break apart and start to bond with nitrogen in the atmosphere, then it takes 8 months. Chemistry doesn't work differently just because there are 2 clouds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headache View Post
    If it takes 8 months for molocules of Terrigen to break apart and start to bond with nitrogen in the atmosphere, then it takes 8 months. Chemistry doesn't work differently just because there are 2 clouds.
    You may have a point there but if there's twice as much of it in the atmosphere breaking down, shouldn't the great tipping point be reached somewhat faster?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Headache View Post
    If it takes 8 months for molocules of Terrigen to break apart and start to bond with nitrogen in the atmosphere, then it takes 8 months. Chemistry doesn't work differently just because there are 2 clouds.
    It never stated it takes 8 months for the molecules to become unstable. Beast reveals that the cloud is shrinking at n rate. If there are two clouds the saturation point in the atmosphere is reached quicker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xelossik View Post
    Emma worked with Hellfire club right?

    why is there a problem that Rogue worked with Inhuman? Who didn't join Attilean?

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    I am beginning to wonder if the fight does not end with Magneto destroying the Inhuman's city so the Inhumans have no home to go back to on Earth, he'd just have to hit the city at the right spot given how tech heavy it is and his powers could probably disrupt a fair amount of things that could lead to a chain reaction explosion...especially if Magneto thought that the X-men were going to lose or surrender to the Inhumans...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoganAlpha30X33 View Post
    I am beginning to wonder if the fight does not end with Magneto destroying the Inhuman's city so the Inhumans have no home to go back to on Earth, he'd just have to hit the city at the right spot given how tech heavy it is and his powers could probably disrupt a fair amount of things that could lead to a chain reaction explosion...especially if Magneto thought that the X-men were going to lose or surrender to the Inhumans...
    Not sure Teen Agnstclops & the rest of the 05 would be teaming up with Magneto in X-Men Blue if he destroyed the New Attlian.
    I'm sure if he'd destroyed it a few years ago it'd be fine, but it'd be unforgivable if it was so recent.
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    Well maybe only if they know that he did it, and remember that most of the people living there have already been evacuated so he wouldn't be killing tons of people...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DurararaFTW View Post
    How? The Terrigen Mists kills people, a faction of X-Men tried to stop it and failed. Storm decided on a truce after this, and followed it up with war after getting Beasts' news. What exactly changes if Emma did what Cyclops did? It does not change the current situation of the Mists. Black Bolt and Medusa believed it was the real Cyclops when they used lethal force so it does not change how reasonable the Inhumans ought to be perceived. It says something about Cyclops' who is a non factor on account of being dead.

    The only reason for Storm to have made a different option is if this war is her revenge for Cyclops' death at the hands of the X-Men. Even though she is one of the people that sees Cyclops as a monster now.
    This, precisely. Emma's manipulation was wrong but is not at all what isn't causing the current war. If Emma destroyed the cloud instead of using cyclops'/ image, the mutants would still be two weeks out from extinction. Nothing would be different about that.

    The fact that marvel and some readers are trying to spin the whole thing such that emma' s deception is the cause of the war reminds me of "alternative facts" fiasco. Being unable to separate one story from another.

    Emma's manipulation and the xmen going to war are two different, mostly unrelated things, each requiring a different consequence and perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoganAlpha30X33 View Post
    I am beginning to wonder if the fight does not end with Magneto destroying the Inhuman's city so the Inhumans have no home to go back to on Earth, he'd just have to hit the city at the right spot given how tech heavy it is and his powers could probably disrupt a fair amount of things that could lead to a chain reaction explosion...especially if Magneto thought that the X-men were going to lose or surrender to the Inhumans...
    I would LOVE to see this happen
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    Then why would XBlue eventually take him as their mentor?

    Though if the #2 solicits are spot on, they do fight him in that issue. Maybe he beats them and imposes himself?

    And maybe the wrecking of New Attilan is what the editors spin as the point that sours Mags on doing things "his way" for the umpteenth time, that the XBlue blurbs describe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nx01a View Post
    It's obvious some X-fans would rather the X-Men took some ridiculous moral high road and just die instead of taking action and saving their species. Peace at the cost of existence? *rolls eyes*

    And let's say Emma had revealed Cyclops' death just after it happened. Storm and the other JGS staff still had Schism animosity towards him, and I doubt any of them would have decided to take immediate and decisive action against the terrigen clouds. They would have talked and negotiated with Medusa, and the two clouds would have dissipated, reaching the saturation point in 4 months instead of 8. Would they have gone to war at that point to save mutant lives? Debatable. Emma forced confrontation onto the X-Men so they could save the lives of mutants who can't fight for themselves. Whether her actions were selfish or insane or both or neither, she realized no one else was going to take the required action against the Inhumans so she forced the issue. Bless her for doing so. It was the right call. She's getting revenge AND saving mutant lives. Perfect.
    But again the bottom line in order for teamwork to be possible, there must be TRUST. There is no excuse for Emma not trusting the others with the truth.

    She didn't tell the mutants that supported her on destroying the first cloud the truth, so this is not an issue of schism. That is an issue of the woman being a cold hearted, lying, manipulative snake. Who really knows how the X-Men could have reacted had they known Cyclops himself died of M-Pox. And while I definitely think the Inhuman stance is wrong, at no point do two wrongs make a right. I'm not at all opposed to the terrigen clouds being destroyed, this is environmental contamination that is not only poisonous to mutants, it's killed some humans and the Inhumans are wrong to preserve it. Emma is wrong to lie to the X-Men. destroy Tyke's life, and lead them into action on false pretenses. Glad to see she's a full on villain again.

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    If the second cloud was destroyed wouldnt it have dispersed the terrigen mists into the atmosphere as alchemy was no longer among them to alter it to render it harmless so maybe the ceasefire was the best option then as supposedly no other X Man could render it inert due to plot reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WallStreeter View Post
    But again the bottom line in order for teamwork to be possible, there must be TRUST. There is no excuse for Emma not trusting the others with the truth.

    She didn't tell the mutants that supported her on destroying the first cloud the truth, so this is not an issue of schism. That is an issue of the woman being a cold hearted, lying, manipulative snake. Who really knows how the X-Men could have reacted had they known Cyclops himself died of M-Pox. And while I definitely think the Inhuman stance is wrong, at no point do two wrongs make a right. I'm not at all opposed to the terrigen clouds being destroyed, this is environmental contamination that is not only poisonous to mutants, it's killed some humans and the Inhumans are wrong to preserve it. Emma is wrong to lie to the X-Men. destroy Tyke's life, and lead them into action on false pretenses. Glad to see she's a full on villain again.
    If it takes a full on villain to force the pacifist to the point of living in Hell X-Men to fight to save themselves and other mutants, let her go full villain, tell the X-Men to go screw themselves once the last cloud is destroyed, and go back to the Hellfire Club. Pre-DoX events have shown the Storm and Wolverine crew will not stand up for themselves against aggressors. At least Emma had the balls to make them take action whether through well played subterfuge or not. Was fooling everyone for months wrong? Possibly. Did it solve half of the terrigen cloud problem? Yes. Even when the X-Men find out the truth about Cyke's death, how will it affect the current situation? Will Storm release Medusa et al from Limbo and apologize profusely, saying she and mutants will leave Earth because of what bad Emma Frost did? There's no way out of the terrigen poisoning situation now apart from removing the cloud.
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    Default Isn't the terrigen mist the villain plot from the first x-men movie

    Seriously whats with marvel writers ideologies for story telling. How on earth is using a chemical weapon cloud to change people a noble thing to do at all. Every Government in the world would declare war on the inhumans and rightly so.

    Also Cyclops dying by walking to onto an island blissfully ignorant of a biological weapon cloud that already killed everyone on it was mind numbing, MAster strangest my ass. No person ever would walk into an area anywhere on earth where they lost contact with people and saw the area filled some green fog that looked like a chemical disaster. The stupidest person on earth wouldn't do that without thing gezzs maybe this fog is toxic, it does look like of Sketchy

    Would a toxic cloud going around turning people into Spider-Man or turning everyone into the Hulk be ok?. Every super hero group should be kicking the **** out of the inhumans regardless if the cloud is deadly to mutants or not. There is nothing Morally or legally right inhumans Terrigen Mist and Terrigen Mist being some precious religious symbol doesnt give them some special privilege.

    The X-Men are fighting for the wrong reason. They should be fighting to kick the**** out of the inhumans because of the Terrigen Mist like they would to Magneto if he had some cloud that turned people into mutants not because the cloud is toxic to someone else.

    If this was the real world the UN would charge the inhumans with crimes against humanity and give theirs leaders a capital punishment death sentence

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    Because when it's mutants = its ok

    Humans = omg, that is wrong.

    If this cloud was as harmful to humans as mutants, I bet you the cloud wouldn't have been around for very long...

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