Will Mankind Ever Evolve Past Bigotry!?

[Abe]

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...

When the words of the prophet/martyr John Lennon are heeded then maybe we might be on to something.

Damn right, Golgo 13!

(even if I'm not sure that he would have appreciated the words 'prophet' or 'martyr' : a bit too religious maybe... And no religion too... One of the BEST lines of the song )

[Ragged Maw]

Until, either.....

A. EVERYONE figures out the most constructive way possible individually to channel their emotions, or....

B. Free will is eliminated via intrusive brain implants...

No. Bigotry will always exist to varying degrees.

[bloodofthegods]

There's no "wising" up to it, anymore than monogamy is a natural instinct. While that doesn't mean that monogamy doesn't work for some, it is not a natural tendency. Just like quashing tribalism, which is mostly at the root of all kinds of bigotry, is never likely to happen. Not unless science can master genetics completely, and that it is the source of these human instincts and traits, might we be able to erase them from the species. There's some things that are what being human is. And no matter how enlightened a society is, not everyone is in control. Not being a bigot is an exercise in being contrary to being human.

[Anthony Shaw]

I think about these quotes from the 4th Doctor in "Genesis of the Daleks". The Daleks are basically murderous space Nazis who believe they are the superior race in the universe.

Well, I do! You see, some things could be better with the Daleks. Many future worlds will become allies because of the fear of the Daleks!

Failed? No, not really. You see, I know that although the Daleks will create havoc and destruction for millions of years, I know also that out of their evil must come something good.

For all the bigotry in the world, it is reassuring when complete strangers come together, and stand against it.

[Iron_Legion87]

Human beings are flawed people there will always be people that have negative feelings towards other for various reasons. To say religion for example is the cause of war and hate is ignorant is there have been plenty of wars that have happened without religion involved, and there have been people that have shot and killed people of color, LGBT etc without being religiously motivated. Personally, I would live to live in a world where black, white, asian, hispanic, straight, gay, bi, atheist, christian, liberal, and right wing could just all RESPECT each other and not tear each others beliefs to validate your own beliefs. We all have far more in common than what we don't have in common. And this division that has run rampant in society is what is really killing us all.

[daBronzeBomma]

Humanity without bigotry?

There is only one way: remove free will from every single human being, now and forever. Without free will, bigotry will definitively go away.

Suck it, Superman: Darkseid was right all along.

Of course, the eradication of free will also means the eradication of happiness, anger, sadness, ambition, as well as every other true feeling or emotion.

But if ending bigotry is your only concern, then you won't mind "throwing the baby out with the bathwater", as the old saying goes.

Otherwise, just accept that bigotry will always be a part of human nature and that the Fight will never be over, nor in your lifetime, nor your children's lifetimes, not in your 10 to the 10th degree descendants' lifetimes.

Utopia will never ever happen. But the March toward it must always go on.

[GOLGO 13]

Damn right, Golgo 13!

(even if I'm not sure that he would have appreciated the words 'prophet' or 'martyr' : a bit too religious maybe... And no religion too... One of the BEST lines of the song )

Hehehehe....If I was blessed enough to say that to Lennon, I like to think he would LOL at being called a prophet to his face.

Yes, the line about "and no religion too" was right on the money. A man ahead of his time.

[Crazy Diamond]

It is easier to entertain the idea of removing free will than it is to have a world without bigotry

It is easier to imagine the end of the world than to imagine the end of capital's totalizing influence.

The problem is human nature is used as a stand in for any behavior that can't be easily explained.

Racism? Human nature.
Homophobia? Human Nature
Sexism? Human nature.
Transphobia? Human nature.
Xenophobia? Human nature.

The thing is, we do not come out of the womb hating people because they are different. We are taught through various means to hate and fear the other. Social constructs which somehow always lead to the idea of X is natural and right are promoted by the ruling class. For example, the idea that white has always been a thing is shown to be false if you look at history. So what is to be done? I would say to attack the source of these bigotries so that they are rendered irrelevant.

[mr_crisp]

We could if there were no white people around.

[mojotastic]

We could if there were no white people around.

I am taking the bait for anyone else.

[The Darknight Detective]

We could if there were no white people around.

If the color of the races were reversed, I have no doubt we would have the same problems that we face today.

[bloodofthegods]

I am taking the bait for anyone else.

I'm sure they'll be more fish bitin'. It's the best bait for catchin'.

[TheInvisibleMan]

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...

When the words of the prophet/martyr John Lennon are heeded then maybe we might be on to something.

and that got him shot

humans are garbage fires with short memories and selfish desires

[mojotastic]

I'm sure they'll be more fish bitin'. It's the best bait for catchin'.

Meanwhile I want to comment how interesting is to see everyone reasoning for this subject is, from racial, to social political reason to human nature to religion itself.

[bloodofthegods]

Meanwhile I want to comment how interesting is to see everyone reasoning for this subject is, from racial, to social political reason to human nature to religion itself.

Yes, talking about racial or any human interaction and perceptions, is an interesting subject. But like subjects like abortion, things can go south quick when people are close minded and ignorant about it. That's why, while, this thread has gone well so far; I was not surprised at a race baiting comment like that one.