IvX #5 SPOILERS

[MindofShadow]

- Gorgon and Colossus brawl (colossus ends up winning)

- Medusa and company find black bolt.. .guarded by Havok. Medusa gives Havok a choice... let them have blackbolt or forfeit your life. He gives up black bolt. but black bolts voice powers are messed up

- Karnak breaks free, finds lockjaw, Reader eventually shows up with Iso

- nuHumans wake up Forge and want him to build the machine. Moon Girl shows him how to build it better and smaller. They agree to go to Ennilux to get the materials to get the machine and destory the cloud

- cyclops and some nuhumans arrive at the cloud where the Xmen arrive. Fight time

Magneto threatens them all with the black bird above their heads



so it looks like the nuhumans are goiing to destroy the cloud. Its like the inhumans who actually got all the information and decided to do the right thing.......... weird......

[Dum Dum Dugan]

The propaganda machine would have been the perfect explanation to salvage the mess that's been Cyclops' storyline.

If they didn't want to sully Medusa's name, they could have said Maximus or somebody else was behind it without her knowledge.

so it looks like the nuhumans are goiing to destroy the cloud. Its like the inhumans who actually got all the information and decided to do the right thing.......... weird......

The Nuhumans ≠ the Royal Family

Unless the solicts are lying, #6 will have Emma and Medusa battle "for the future of their people."

[XPac]

- Gorgon and Colossus brawl (colossus ends up winning)

- Medusa and company find black bolt.. .guarded by Havok. Medusa gives Havok a choice... let them have blackbolt or forfeit your life. He gives up black bolt. but black bolts voice powers are messed up

- Karnak breaks free, finds lockjaw, Reader eventually shows up with Iso

- nuHumans wake up Forge and want him to build the machine. Moon Girl shows him how to build it better and smaller. They agree to go to Ennilux to get the materials to get the machine and destory the cloud

- cyclops and some nuhumans arrive at the cloud where the Xmen arrive. Fight time

Magneto threatens them all with the black bird above their heads



so it looks like the nuhumans are goiing to destroy the cloud. Its like the inhumans who actually got all the information and decided to do the right thing.......... weird......

I think the general idea is that the young idealistic heroes have the right idea and will save the day, but the grumpy old farts on both sides are going to screw this all up again. But we'll see.

[MindofShadow]

The Nuhumans ≠ the Royal Family

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We still don't know what the Royal Family will do because no one has bothered to tell them what hte cloud is about to do.

[Dum Dum Dugan]

We still don't know what the Royal Family will do because no one has bothered to tell them what hte cloud is about to do.

No, but they don't view it as sacred the way the Royals do, and some of them were already opposed to it beforehand, so their thinking that it needs to be destroyed isn't as big of a deal.

[Fokken]

Oh THANK YOU, MoS!!

I COMPLETELY forgot this was being released today and the preview for Extraordinary X-Men had me SO confused about the continuity of this cluster.

[Namor'sWrath]

We still don't know what the Royal Family will do because no one has bothered to tell them what hte cloud is about to do.

When you typically respond with violence people will be less likely to tell you things.

[Knives]

Pity that the fight of Colossus and Gorgon was off screen.

Havok's reaction was weird he's no longer inverted? It seemed to be his real self.

Well here begins the purgatory of Emma at least hope she kicks the butt of Medusa with style.

They tried to explain Cyclops is Hitler on a single page?

facepalm-x-men.jpg

[Ra-El]

Magneto' moment was the best part of the whole book, the only really good one. Now that the real Cyclops is dead and we are left with the PussyCycke, Magneto is becoming my favorite X-Men, since Cable is doing nothing in Uncanny Avengers.

[XPac]

When you typically respond with violence people will be less likely to tell you things.

Poor communication is why a good 90% of these hero vs hero conlicts escalate to the degree they do.

It's probably what the NuHumans will scold all the adults over when this is over.

[Ianbarreilles]

Pity that the fight of Colossus and Gorgon was off screen.

Havok's reaction was weird he's no longer inverted? It seemed to be his real self.

Well here begins the purgatory of Emma at least hope she kicks the butt of Medusa with style.

They tried to explain Cyclops is Hitler on a single page?

facepalm-x-men.jpg

The explaination wasn't actually bad at all it made logical sense and given society within the marvel universes long anti mutant views it's really not surprising.

[MindofShadow]

No, but they don't view it as sacred the way the Royals do, and some of them were already opposed to it beforehand, so their thinking that it needs to be destroyed isn't as big of a deal.

Possibly.

But we don't know becuase they don't know lol. Its all guessing until it happens.

And it very well could happen next issue. They find out... Medusa or BB make the tough decision to let the cloud get destoryed (it has to be destoryed or there wouldn't be any X books left)... and Emma can't handle that and becomes the villain of the book.

[DDM]

Nice to see Attilan Fake News officially canonized. Soule came through.

I think the general idea is that the young idealistic heroes have the right idea and will save the day, but the grumpy old farts on both sides are going to screw this all up again. But we'll see.

Except the right idea was the one the grumpy old farts on the morally correct side had in the first place.

[SpiderClops]

I think the general idea is that the young idealistic heroes have the right idea and will save the day, but the grumpy old farts on both sides are going to screw this all up again. But we'll see.

They are the CHAMPIONS!!

The explaination wasn't actually bad at all it made logical sense and given society within the marvel universes long anti mutant views it's really not surprising.

There wasn't any explanation. It was basically Soule and Lemire admitting they have no idea how HitlerClops became a thing.

[Ianbarreilles]

They are the CHAMPIONS!!



There wasn't any explanation. It was basically Soule and Lemire admitting they have no idea how HitlerClops became a thing.

That's your opinion but to me it was an explaination and good one at that I always assumed way back in extraordinary X-men when it was first brought up that it was because of how the mainstream media within the marvel universe reported the events of death of X and what cyclops did but again I don't expect others to agree but to me it was an explaination and it was an explanation I always assumed was the reason why people viewed cyclops that way you may not agree with it but that's basically why they viewed him that way.