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    Quote Originally Posted by zerodemon View Post
    Well you know, There comes a time when the old characters die. The brave die with the cunning! The noble perish locked in battle with unleashed evil. It is the last day for them! An era of great comics passing in fiery holocaust!
    Yes, I have heard that somewhere.

    Do we know if Mignola is launching a new "Second World" after this is over.
    There came a time when the Old Gods died! The Brave died with the Cunning! The Noble perished locked in battle with unleashed Evil! It was the last day for them! An ancient era was passing in fiery holocaust!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    All those deaths are getting to me. I don't know if I want to leave these books, after decades, with almost everyone dead. (I figure there are more deaths coming)
    I understand your feeling but everything that has a beginning also has an end. I just wish that the story went a little slower than rapidly doing everything and killing characters on short notice.

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    spoilers:

    I've been rereading through Hell On Earth the last couple weeks and realized something that got past me before. In the Russia arc we see Iosif killing off a group of people working for Varvara, with Lazar getting away. In Return of the Master Lazar seems to be transforming into Rasputin, though there's never 100% confirmation (There's the cut from "Maybe someone else already found his soul" to Lazar, and Tyler Crooks notes in the trade refer to him as Rasputin). And then eventually Lazar is just burned away in an instant and the whole situation basically goes unresolved with no one really sure what happened. It seems like on reread, knowing what's coming, there's more to the Varvara's people trying to summon Rasputin than we realized at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skinkie View Post
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    I've been rereading through Hell On Earth the last couple weeks and realized something that got past me before. In the Russia arc we see Iosif killing off a group of people working for Varvara, with Lazar getting away. In Return of the Master Lazar seems to be transforming into Rasputin, though there's never 100% confirmation (There's the cut from "Maybe someone else already found his soul" to Lazar, and Tyler Crooks notes in the trade refer to him as Rasputin). And then eventually Lazar is just burned away in an instant and the whole situation basically goes unresolved with no one really sure what happened. It seems like on reread, knowing what's coming, there's more to the Varvara's people trying to summon Rasputin than we realized at the time.
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    Niiiiiiiice!!

    I had always wondered about that. Felt pretty confused about that for a while, then just sort of forgot about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junior Wormwood View Post
    Niiiiiiiice!!

    I had always wondered about that. Felt pretty confused about that for a while, then just sort of forgot about it.
    Yeah, on my reread, the Return of the Master makes a lot more sense. The question I still have is did the Black Flame destroy Lazar intentionally to remove a competitor, or was him being burned to a crisp just a coincidence? Initially, I believed the latter, but now I think the former is much more likely.

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    Hopefully we’ll get some clarification on Lazar’s role in things in the remaining issues

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skinkie View Post
    spoilers:

    I've been rereading through Hell On Earth the last couple weeks and realized something that got past me before. In the Russia arc we see Iosif killing off a group of people working for Varvara, with Lazar getting away. In Return of the Master Lazar seems to be transforming into Rasputin, though there's never 100% confirmation (There's the cut from "Maybe someone else already found his soul" to Lazar, and Tyler Crooks notes in the trade refer to him as Rasputin). And then eventually Lazar is just burned away in an instant and the whole situation basically goes unresolved with no one really sure what happened. It seems like on reread, knowing what's coming, there's more to the Varvara's people trying to summon Rasputin than we realized at the time.
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    Hey you made a connection I never considered for a minute. And I call myself a fan of the Hellboy universe, for shame.

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