Post-War of the worlds, when Diana was fighting Circe in Greece, she tried to lasso Circe and Circe caught the lasso and just laughed at it but later in the fight, I believe Diana warps the lasso around Circe's arm and she did end up speaking her true feelings.
Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran
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Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran
Arx Inosaan
Wouldn't logically the limit be the lowest thing it has failed to defeat?
Because let's say, hypothetically, the most powerful thing it has defeated was the true Darkseid, and it has not been tried on anything more powerful.
There is no information about how the Lasso would interact with something more powerful so to just rule it automatically would fail flies in the face of logic.
No, it doesn't.
I'll take your logic and apply it to myself...
I've never been beaten in a fight. Ever. So it stands to reason I can beat anyone in a fight.
OK, so I've never actually been in a fight, but still.... zero defeats.
Equally, we could probably find someone else who's never been in a fight. So they could beat anyone too.
If we fought each other, does that mean we'd both win? If the limit is the lowest person we've each failed to beat, that would be the logical outcome. But it's clearly a load of arse-biscuits because it doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Take it back to comics. When Sentry appeared, he was kicking everyone's arse. Does that mean he could beat Eternity? Of course not.
And that's why the No Limits Fallacy is a thing.
Has wearing thick armor ever prevented the lasso from effecting people?
I'm not talking about something like Ironman, but maybe Hulk Buster armored Ironman. Would the amount of metal and how thick it is have any effect on the lasso working on Tony inside the armor?
What if somebody is wearing some sort of symbite. Not Venom, where it's bonded to him, but one of those cases where the symbite has taken over somebody. Would the lasso effect both of the or just the symbite itself?
What if a psychic was talking though a person and she wrapped the lasso around them? Would the lasso affect the psychic who isn't actually there or just the person?
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I know it has. I'm just trying to explain this in simple terms.
Has the lasso (post-Crisis) beaten the Spectre? Has it beaten Zero Hour Parallax? Lucifer Morningstar or Michael? The Presence?
No?
It may not have even faced them. I don't know.
But if it hasn't faced them, we can't assume it would beat them just because everything it's faced up until now it has beaten.
If someone has always knocked out everyone they've ever punched, but everyone they've punched has been a three-year old child, you can't assume that this person would knock out Anthony Joshua just because he has a 100% track record. Because knocking out Anthony Joshua is a different level from knocking out 3-year old children. (I imagine, I hasten to add. )
The lasso may be proven to beat Superman, Martian Manhunter, Despero, Bizarro, Cheetah etc., etc. and it may have a 100% record against everyone at that level (or whatever level it's faced up until now), but that doesn't mean it would beat The Presence. That is the No Limits Fallacy.
So the lasso's limit, until proven otherwise, is the highest level it has so far been proven to defeat.