Yes, it's exactly what Wally needs
No, he's been underused
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If folks here are screaming and b!tching about how Wally West (I) was treated, think about how Ted Kord's fans feel about the way he was treated, seeing his whole life and everything he worked for get destroyed before being brutally murdered by a "so-called" friend.
Then when his best friend Booster tries to extract him into the future, that attempt is set up to fail from the get-go, forcing Ted to sacrifice himself to save the future. (Although they did leave an "out" there ...)
Then, his murderer gets resurrected - while he doesn't.
And then, the murderer proceeds to use his new lease on life to totally dishonor Ted's memory and escape justice - this time, alive.
Compared to that, Wally (I) got off lightly.
Now, as far as your points go:
1) I think the book is actually quite good; it's just not the kind of action that most folks seem to want these days. People seem to forget that "apocalypses" are NOT everyday events.
2) As much as I respect Booster's devotion to Ted, especially in trying to save his life; it's best that Ted re-establish himself as a respectable, successful businessman and super-hero independently of Booster - first.
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3) I totally agree with you here; Ted should have Jaime fighting beside him. However, due to his heart condition, he would need to use a very special suit. Spandex is pretty well over and done; he'd have to use some sort of armor at a minimum.
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Okay, I see. And yeah, RealWally has still gotten off better than a lot of other mistreated heroes.
1) My problem actually isn't the action. Giffen knows how to write Ted just fine, but I really don't think he gets Jaime and his supporting cast like John Rogers. That, and I'm not a fan of the art AT ALL.
2) Fair enough. But if Booster and Ted, the ultimate bromance, isn't brought together by the end of Rebirth, I'mma be pissed.
3) The Kingdom Come suit could work.
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See what I mean when I say DCEU Barry is a bit of a Wally ripoff? He's like, a more awkward version of Wally. He's got the snark, the witty humor, and even the fixation on souvenirs from Young Justice. I'm worried they intentionally wrote him as an amalgamation of the two because they have no plans for Wally in the DCEU.
And I personally don't care who's faster in the comics, Wally could have 2% of Barry's speed for all I care as long as his character got some actual focus. But I do like the idea of Wally's powers being more versatile and gimmicky while Barry is more skilled overall.
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Treating Wally badly, no. Underutilizing him, probably.
As for who's faster of Wally or Barry: don't know, don't care. I do know that this isn't the Wally who could hit 13 trillion c; but it's also not the immediate Post-Crisis Wally who topped out at 770mph.
I'm enjoying and reading Titans right now, but I'd be happy with more Wally. I haven't read the Rebirth Barry, but I liked the early New52 version. I've read good books with both characters since the 70s, and would be happy to continue doing so.
The thing is, that while I like Wally, I don't feel he has to be the ultimate speedster. He just needs to be worth reading about. This version is, so I'm happy.
You keep repeating that as if it is fact. If he is an amalgamation then he isn't a ripoff... and if he is an amalgamation of anyone it is Barry and Bart. Even Ezra Miller himself has said that much of his take on the character comes from the research that he did on Barry during his Silver Age run. If I am wrong I will eat crow and admit it but if anyone thinks a ginger Wally is any kind of priority for the DCEU then they are bonkers.
People like using that feat as an example of Wally's speed. I see it both as a sample of Wally's speed and a sample of bad math/writing. If people want to use that feat as a example then you also have remember that that very same book cites that feat as being just below the speed of light.
Bart? I'm not seeing it. Bart (as Impulse at least) is an amusingly obnoxious, over the top goofball. He's doesn't have the more calculated sense of humor we see from Wally and Ezra Miller as Barry. An amalgamation can still be a ripoff if enough traits, that originated from Wally, are stolen. To be fair it's too soon to tell, I'm just speculating.
So much truth to these statements. Williamson may eventually be Barry's Waid but that remains to be seen. His last two arcs have been stronger, but the Godspeed arc felt similar in tone to Manapuls' Mob Rule. They were simply the intro arcs for a new writer trying to make his mark by introducing their own villain. Godspeed feels like a Zolomon rip off just as much Manapuls' Reverse Flash was an unnecessary addition of yet another evil speedster. After the Rudy West Reverse Flash was introduced I don't quite understand how editorial approved the creation of yet another evil speedster.
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Really? I don't think it's that hard to balance them if there's an actual effort made, I think Nu Wally is more of a problem if anything. It's not like the Bat-Family which is the biggest mess it's ever been, the fact that Barry and Wally are on equal terms actually simplifies things, and the rest of the Speedsters can easily act as support for those 2.
Not that I'd have a problem with a Flash Family book starring Wally and playing down Barry, but either could work.
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