Okay, Let's start taking bets.

[theoneandonly]

The Only way to keep Aunt May alive (again) is for Spider-Man to make a deal with Stryfe (Mephisto stopped taking his calls) and use Parker Industries to re-engineer the legacy virus.

Get ready for S v X

(Spoilers: Somehow the X-Men brought this on themselves and a near the edge of extinction again. Spider Gwen for hero of the Arc. Storm goes crazy. Jubilee leads the new flagship Uncanny New X-men (featuring none of the previous New X-men))

another way for the spiderverse and the x verse to clash would be due to being manipulated by the clone conspiracy hatched by sinister and Ben Reilly where the spiders will be convinced by ben reilly somehow that the x men have been replaced by their clones contaning the legacy virus while the x men are convinced by sinister that the spiders have been replaced with clones containing carrion virus.while some are clones on both the sides spreading the two viruses causing outbreaks killing thousands and acting as carriers others are the originals. secret invasion 2 with clones instead of skrulls.no one is sure who is the clone and who is the genuine article causing much confusion and mayhem as spiderverse clashes with the mutants.

[Armageddon]

As soon as Marvel stops hating the X-Men they will get a reboot

[Sutekh]

1) Mutants have recently spent time in Limbo/Hell, so some sort of mystical threat or taint or demonic affliction / uprising tied to those mutants could be the next 'everybody vs. X' event. If the various mutants have become or are being used as 'weak points' and demonic events are occurring because of their presence in an area (including fun stuff like random portals to Hell opening up, or mutants being possessed), the supernatural community, led by Dr. Strange, Voodoo, Shaman, Scarlet Witch, etc. could be the forces aligning against them, along with various other heroes.

2) Someone's been messing with time, again, and future and / or past versions of characters are appearing and disappearing. Some sort of 'time-keepers' are trying to prevent an Incursion-level time-quake by getting rid of all the time-displaced mutants, including Cable, Bishop, Rachel Summers, the O5 X-teens, etc. as well as time-manipulating or meddling X-peeps, like Beast, Tempus, Kiden Nixon, Legion, Ilyanna, Timeslip, Lacuna, etc. etc. Members of the superhero community getting involved could include people with time machines or 'cosmic consciousness,' ranging from Infamous Doom to Reed Richards to Quasar to a reborn Genis-Vell (who, last seen, was scattered across time).

3) The High Evolutionary. He's already tried to wipe out mutants at least twice. His new idea will be to relocate them all to Counter-Earth (at first, voluntarily, then by force, perhaps unleashing a 'mutant cure virus' that will depower anyone who tries to stay), and, for a year or so, X-stories will be utterly divorced from Avengers/Champions/etc. continuity, as they are on different Earths. But Counter-Earth is unstable, and if it explodes, mutantkind could go down with the ship!

4) X vs. X! The top 1% winners of the genetic lottery versus everyone else! Forge goes mental and designs a satellite-based version of his No More Mutants gun (first used on Storm), and starts randomly zapping whole sections of the planet with his 'Mutant Cure,' all because Storm broke up with him, and he thinks mutants suck. Mutants who hate being mutants, because they are ugly freaks with little or no powers, persecuted for the awesome 'power' of leaving a trail of paralyzing mucus behind them, or smelling like a dead skunk, or having radioactive tentacles where your genitals should be, will be eager to bathe in the rays of his Satellite of Self-Loathing, while the cool mutants who look like underwear models, live in a mansion and have amazing superhero powers will be all 'How can you betray your heritage, sewer-dwelling rat-eating race-traitors?'

[theoneandonly]

1) Mutants have recently spent time in Limbo/Hell, so some sort of mystical threat or taint or demonic affliction / uprising tied to those mutants could be the next 'everybody vs. X' event. If the various mutants have become or are being used as 'weak points' and demonic events are occurring because of their presence in an area (including fun stuff like random portals to Hell opening up, or mutants being possessed), the supernatural community, led by Dr. Strange, Voodoo, Shaman, Scarlet Witch, etc. could be the forces aligning against them, along with various other heroes.

2) Someone's been messing with time, again, and future and / or past versions of characters are appearing and disappearing. Some sort of 'time-keepers' are trying to prevent an Incursion-level time-quake by getting rid of all the time-displaced mutants, including Cable, Bishop, Rachel Summers, the O5 X-teens, etc. as well as time-manipulating or meddling X-peeps, like Beast, Tempus, Kiden Nixon, Legion, Ilyanna, Timeslip, Lacuna, etc. etc. Members of the superhero community getting involved could include people with time machines or 'cosmic consciousness,' ranging from Infamous Doom to Reed Richards to Quasar to a reborn Genis-Vell (who, last seen, was scattered across time).

3) The High Evolutionary. He's already tried to wipe out mutants at least twice. His new idea will be to relocate them all to Counter-Earth (at first, voluntarily, then by force, perhaps unleashing a 'mutant cure virus' that will depower anyone who tries to stay), and, for a year or so, X-stories will be utterly divorced from Avengers/Champions/etc. continuity, as they are on different Earths. But Counter-Earth is unstable, and if it explodes, mutantkind could go down with the ship!

4) X vs. X! The top 1% winners of the genetic lottery versus everyone else! Forge goes mental and designs a satellite-based version of his No More Mutants gun (first used on Storm), and starts randomly zapping whole sections of the planet with his 'Mutant Cure,' all because Storm broke up with him, and he thinks mutants suck. Mutants who hate being mutants, because they are ugly freaks with little or no powers, persecuted for the awesome 'power' of leaving a trail of paralyzing mucus behind them, or smelling like a dead skunk, or having radioactive tentacles where your genitals should be, will be eager to bathe in the rays of his Satellite of Self-Loathing, while the cool mutants who look like underwear models, live in a mansion and have amazing superhero powers will be all 'How can you betray your heritage, sewer-dwelling rat-eating race-traitors?'

I like all of your scenarios especially the first third and the last one. the last one could be the first civil war for mutants or the second siege.you didn't say who will lead the one percent segment.though presumably the other side will be lead by a deranged forge or is he just the catalyst like the beast was in IvsX? if so then who will support him and lead the faction as he or she believes in freedom of choice like him despite him being deranged or will he not know about his dementia?

[Vegeta]

I dunno, unlike the Avengers titles or the Inhumans books, Spider-Man is a strong enough seller that he doesn't need to piggyback off the X-Men's popularity for sales. (Unless they are trying to prop up the failing "Silk" and "Spiderwoman" titles. )

[Ianbarreilles]

I dunno, unlike the Avengers titles or the Inhumans books, Spider-Man is a strong enough seller that he doesn't need to piggyback off the X-Men's popularity for sales. (Unless they are trying to prop up the failing "Silk" and "Spiderwoman" titles. )

Hey silk and spider-woman were good storytelling wise but sadly they couldn't make enough in monthly sales to survive spider-gwen surprisingly is still going strong though.

[Huntsman Spider]

another way for the spiderverse and the x verse to clash would be due to being manipulated by the clone conspiracy hatched by sinister and Ben Reilly where the spiders will be convinced by ben reilly somehow that the x men have been replaced by their clones contaning the legacy virus while the x men are convinced by sinister that the spiders have been replaced with clones containing carrion virus.while some are clones on both the sides spreading the two viruses causing outbreaks killing thousands and acting as carriers others are the originals. secret invasion 2 with clones instead of skrulls.no one is sure who is the clone and who is the genuine article causing much confusion and mayhem as spiderverse clashes with the mutants.

It makes perfect sense for Mister Sinister, who probably wants revenge on both Peter and Ben for the times they meddled in his affairs (X-Men/Spider-Man miniseries by Christos Gage, Spider-Man & the X-Men back in 2014-15), but Ben's part would be more easily explained if he were himself a dupe for Sinister and a proxy by which Sinister could manipulate the other Spiders. Naturally, the one who'd be least likely to fall for it would be Kaine, who hates his "brother's" guts now and wouldn't trust a damned thing he said no matter how dire-sounding, and he'd probably hook up with the X-Men temporarily just to keep them from being too badly hurt by the deceived Spiders. Of course, Sinister's ultimate plan would be a hybrid of the Carrion and Legacy Viruses, all the better to wipe the planet clean of humans, mutants, and Inhumans and leave it fresh for his superior new species to inherit, forcing the X-Men and the Spiders to unite to defeat Sinister and his legion of cloned monstrosities.

I dunno, unlike the Avengers titles or the Inhumans books, Spider-Man is a strong enough seller that he doesn't need to piggyback off the X-Men's popularity for sales. (Unless they are trying to prop up the failing "Silk" and "Spiderwoman" titles. )

Hey silk and spider-woman were good storytelling wise but sadly they couldn't make enough in monthly sales to survive spider-gwen surprisingly is still going strong though.

Hell, we've had plenty to say over in the Spider-Man forums about how the character, despite still being a strong seller in his own right, is being given a raw deal in terms of story and character development while the real effort seems to be going into the Avengers and Inhumans titles, so he's almost in the same boat as the X-Men. Unlike the X-Men, Marvel doesn't seem to want to destroy Spider-Man completely, but rather his importance and the level of respect afforded him in-universe seems to have diminished somewhat in favor of promoting other characters, mostly of the Avenging and Inhuman persuasions.

As for Silk and Spider-Woman, both of them had pretty poor starts in terms of reader reception, Silk with her debut in Amazing Spider-Man under Dan Slott's pen and how he portrayed her, Spider-Woman with first the Spider-Verse tie-in issues and the controversy over Milo Manara's variant cover for the first issue, then the somewhat skeptical reaction to her change of costume and later her post-Secret Wars status quo of becoming a mother. Both of them got lots of positive critical reception post-Spider-Verse, but it would seem the regular readership, as it were, had a harder time buying into them than with Spider-Gwen and that might have been what played a part in their sales going down past cancellation levels.

[theoneandonly]

It makes perfect sense for Mister Sinister, who probably wants revenge on both Peter and Ben for the times they meddled in his affairs (X-Men/Spider-Man miniseries by Christos Gage, Spider-Man & the X-Men back in 2014-15), but Ben's part would be more easily explained if he were himself a dupe for Sinister and a proxy by which Sinister could manipulate the other Spiders. Naturally, the one who'd be least likely to fall for it would be Kaine, who hates his "brother's" guts now and wouldn't trust a damned thing he said no matter how dire-sounding, and he'd probably hook up with the X-Men temporarily just to keep them from being too badly hurt by the deceived Spiders. Of course, Sinister's ultimate plan would be a hybrid of the Carrion and Legacy Viruses, all the better to wipe the planet clean of humans, mutants, and Inhumans and leave it fresh for his superior new species to inherit, forcing the X-Men and the Spiders to unite to defeat Sinister and his legion of cloned monstrosities.





Hell, we've had plenty to say over in the Spider-Man forums about how the character, despite still being a strong seller in his own right, is being given a raw deal in terms of story and character development while the real effort seems to be going into the Avengers and Inhumans titles, so he's almost in the same boat as the X-Men. Unlike the X-Men, Marvel doesn't seem to want to destroy Spider-Man completely, but rather his importance and the level of respect afforded him in-universe seems to have diminished somewhat in favor of promoting other characters, mostly of the Avenging and Inhuman persuasions.

As for Silk and Spider-Woman, both of them had pretty poor starts in terms of reader reception, Silk with her debut in Amazing Spider-Man under Dan Slott's pen and how he portrayed her, Spider-Woman with first the Spider-Verse tie-in issues and the controversy over Milo Manara's variant cover for the first issue, then the somewhat skeptical reaction to her change of costume and later her post-Secret Wars status quo of becoming a mother. Both of them got lots of positive critical reception post-Spider-Verse, but it would seem the regular readership, as it were, had a harder time buying into them than with Spider-Gwen and that might have been what played a part in their sales going down past cancellation levels.

lol you improved upon my scenario even better than I could and even provided the perfect climax. I would think if Ben is playing part of dupe then he could march whatever clones he still had in a do or die march against sinister and his army of superior clones along with the heroes. Guess he could die saving Kaine this time who doesn't appreciate it as he considers this Ben the false copy of the original unlike his previous sacrifce which was a tragedy and. highly emotional touching moment when peter dealt with the aftermath or maybe he could die saving the x men and destroying the clones and stopping sinisters twisted plans. spiderman and Kaine would have conflicting views on bens sacrifice as peter would think he has atoned his sins while kaine considers it good riddance of a genocidal copy of true Ben. completely in agreement with the latter part of your post also. The x fans should know about the pain of the wall crawlers fans.

[Huntsman Spider]

lol you improved upon my scenario even better than I could and even provided the perfect climax. I would think if Ben is playing part of dupe then he could march whatever clones he still had in a do or die march against sinister and his army of superior clones along with the heroes. Guess he could die saving Kaine this time who doesn't appreciate it as he considers this Ben the false copy of the original unlike his previous sacrifce which was a tragedy and. highly emotional touching moment when peter dealt with the aftermath or maybe he could die saving the x men and destroying the clones and stopping sinisters twisted plans. spiderman and Kaine would have conflicting views on bens sacrifice as peter would think he has atoned his sins while kaine considers it good riddance of a genocidal copy of true Ben. completely in agreement with the latter part of your post also. The x fans should know about the pain of the wall crawlers fans.

Thanks, and your idea for an ending to the Spiders Vs. X-Men saga would be tragically ironic from a character standpoint, with Ben sacrificing himself (again) to save Peter (and Kaine), but Kaine thoroughly rejecting him even in death and refusing to see him as anything at all akin to the man he remembered and mourned. It would be in-character, given how cynical and hardened Kaine is compared to Peter's naivety and emotional sensitivity, but it would still be tragic.

And yes, considering that Spider-Man and the X-Men were the pillars of Marvel throughout the 80s and 90s and now have been more-or-less reduced in stature and respect by the current regime at Marvel in favor of promoting the Avengers and Inhumans, I'd also think X-Fans and Spider-Fans could commiserate and maybe unite. Come to think of it, Spider-Man and the X-Men were both the outcasts of the Marvel Universe, both misunderstood and demonized by the very people they sought to protect and defend, yet they were the most popular Marvel characters with readers.

[Vegeta]

Thanks, and your idea for an ending to the Spiders Vs. X-Men saga would be tragically ironic from a character standpoint, with Ben sacrificing himself (again) to save Peter (and Kaine), but Kaine thoroughly rejecting him even in death and refusing to see him as anything at all akin to the man he remembered and mourned. It would be in-character, given how cynical and hardened Kaine is compared to Peter's naivety and emotional sensitivity, but it would still be tragic.

And yes, considering that Spider-Man and the X-Men were the pillars of Marvel throughout the 80s and 90s and now have been more-or-less reduced in stature and respect by the current regime at Marvel in favor of promoting the Avengers and Inhumans, I'd also think X-Fans and Spider-Fans could commiserate and maybe unite. Come to think of it, Spider-Man and the X-Men were both the outcasts of the Marvel Universe, both misunderstood and demonized by the very people they sought to protect and defend, yet they were the most popular Marvel characters with readers.

Agreed, character wise, Spider-Man always seemed like the hero that would be most sympathetic to the mutant plight. Marvel would probably be better off with a "Spider-Man vs. Avengers" or "Spider-Man vs. Inhumans" miniseries, if they are going to prop up those lower selling franchises.

"SHIELD vs. X-Men" is long overdue though. More often then not, they are the cause of a lot of problems in the Marvel Universe, and they often end up constructing Sentinels to boot.

[nx01a]

At least Spidey and the X-Men are huge. I feel for the hardcore Fantastic Four fans. The darkest days of The CompleX were nothing compared to what they're still going through. Even if it's only one title, Marvel will always publish Spidey. He's their biggest source of revenue from toys and other merchandise.

For my stab at the next X-Tinction Agenda... Roxxon has been working with Weapon X for years to put spoilers:

gene editing viruses in corn syrup, leading to mutants slowly losing their powers and no new mutant power manifestations. As their powers fail, the X-Men make one last stand against Weapon X and Roxxon and the Reavers, wherein OMLogan sacrifices his life to destroy the MacGuffin Machine and save mutantkind.

end of spoilers Movie synergy. Oh, and the O5 have to go back, too, or all is lost!

[Ianbarreilles]

At least Spidey and the X-Men are huge. I feel for the hardcore Fantastic Four fans. The darkest days of The CompleX were nothing compared to what they're still going through. Even if it's only one title, Marvel will always publish Spidey. He's their biggest source of revenue from toys and other merchandise.

Roxxon has been working with Weapon X for years to put spoilers:

gene editing viruses in corn syrup, leading to mutants slowly losing their powers and no new mutant power manifestations. As their powers fail, the X-Men make one last stand against Weapon X and Roxxon and the Reavers, wherein OMLogan sacrifices his life to restart destroy the MacGuffin Machine and save mutantkind.

end of spoilers Movie synergy. Oh, and the O5 have to go back, too, or all is lost!

The fantastic four aren't exactly being forgotten reed and susan and their children are rebuilding the multiverse with molecule man and Ben Grimm has recently joined shield as a agent after he left the gaurdians and is now a recurring supporting character in the infamous iron man speaking of which...Victor von doom has now taken on the Katie of the infamous iron man in well his own ongoing solo series infamous iron man and Johnny Storm in the aftermath of Ivx he's leaving the inhumans and I believe will remain with the uncanny avengers.

Peter Parker even erected a statue in honor of the fantastic four ever since he bought out the Baxter building to be his own headquarters for Parker industries and Johnny Storm has been an on again off again recurring character in spider man from time to time and finally the ultimate reed richards the maker is still running around the marvel prime earth he's currently an antagonist of doom's in the infamous iron man.

Oh and lastly Victor will be joining mark waid's avengers in May as the infamous iron man I say this because people like to think the fantastic four is being forgotten but they're really not.

[nx01a]

If you think FF fans should be happy with that...
There is no ongoing FF comic. Half of the FF (or more than half if you include the kids who are essential to the family dynamic) haven't appeared in a comic since the final issue of Secret Wars. Johnny and Ben and even Doom are being used to prop up MCU properties and brands. That's horrible.

Now, back to placing out bets!

[Starleafgirl]

At least Spidey and the X-Men are huge. I feel for the hardcore Fantastic Four fans. The darkest days of The CompleX were nothing compared to what they're still going through. Even if it's only one title, Marvel will always publish Spidey. He's their biggest source of revenue from toys and other merchandise.

Roxxon has been working with Weapon X for years to put spoilers:

gene editing viruses in corn syrup, leading to mutants slowly losing their powers and no new mutant power manifestations. As their powers fail, the X-Men make one last stand against Weapon X and Roxxon and the Reavers, wherein OMLogan sacrifices his life to restart destroy the MacGuffin Machine and save mutantkind.

end of spoilers Movie synergy. Oh, and the O5 have to go back, too, or all is lost!

I knew there was a good reason to avoid high fructose corn syrup!

Bonus: Roxxon and Weapon X team up to create the mutant-exterminating Weapon xXx, who bears a striking resemblance to Groot for some reason.

[nx01a]

We'd most likely end up with