Ben Reilly's history lives on in X-23...

[Cmbmool]

Given the news of X-23 becoming the All New Wolverine Post Secret Wars, I would love to refer back to the original CLONE hero replacement: Ben Reilly.

I mean we all knew his time as Peter's replacement, right ?

We all knew his adventures as Spidey. Right ?


Doesn't anyone remember when Ben Reilly, the clone of Spider-man, became Spider-man ?

[ZephyrSurf]

Considering the clusterfuck of the clone saga, that could have been any number of years.

[oldschool]

Given the news of X-23 becoming the All New Wolverine Post Secret Wars, I would love to refer back to the original hero replacement: Ben Reilly.

I mean we all knew his time as Peter's replacement, right ?

We all knew his adventures as Spidey. Right ?


Doesn't anyone remember when Ben Reilly, the clone of Spider-man, became Spider-man ?

He "officially" became Spider-Man (and not just Scarlet Spider) in the spider titles cover-dated Jan 1996.

[SuperiorIronman]

I remember Reilly. A lot could be avoided in spider lore with him. It makes unmasking have a scapegoat, easy drama, easily created villains via Jackal, and instant satellite title.

Yeah I remember Reilly. I also seem to remember hearing about how Marvel tried to make him the real Peter Parker or at another point trying to phase Peter out for Ben. With X-23 in the modern day where Marvel is for the most part financially secure it probably won't be a big deal. Still the board will probably light up with people unable to accept change and make the return all the quicker because it isn't there wolverine despite the other charaecter still being around and still relevant to Marvel' s interest.

The same concept applies here like with Ben but I hope X-23 and her fans don't get the same treatment as Ben fans once this is all said and done.

[616MarvelYear is LeapYear]

The title of this thread is somewhat right to me.

616 Ben Reilly the clone of 616 Peter Parker, was indeed the hero replacement of 616 Spider-Man

counterpart of 616 Laura Kinney clone DAUGHTER of 616 Wolverine, just like 616 Longshot is the clone SON of 616 Benjamin Russell the bi-sexual Shatterstar is indeed the hero replacement of 616 Wolverine.

Unlike 616 Ben Reily, the counterpart of 616 X-23 will also probably have a father-daughter relationship with 616 Wolverine's counterpart Old Man Logan.
To me, that is nice.

[William300]

Yea, but the relationships were different. Ben's and Peter's relationship was hard to describe. Not to mention that him taking up the mantle felt unnatural. I view Logan and Laura as father and daughter, and because they developed that relationship it made her taking up the Wolverine mantle very natural.

[Cmbmool]

Yea, but the relationships were different. Ben's and Peter's relationship was hard to describe. Not to mention that him taking up the mantle felt unnatural. I view Logan and Laura as father and daughter, and because they developed that relationship it made her taking up the Wolverine mantle very natural.

Yeah, but given their attitude and histories towards each other, it would also make Logan and Laura's relationship a bit complex.

[William300]

Yeah, but given their attitude and histories towards each other, it would also make Logan and Laura's relationship a bit complex.

Complex? Maybe, but their relationship is still more easily defined that Peter's and Ben's.

[MajorHoy]

Given the news of X-23 becoming the All New Wolverine Post Secret Wars, I would love to refer back to the original hero replacement: Ben Reilly.

Actually, there were a few characters who replaced Steve Rogers as Captain America in stories written prior to the introduction of Spider-Clone.

[Cmbmool]

Actually, there were a few characters who replaced Steve Rogers as Captain America in stories written prior to the introduction of Spider-Clone.

I think what I meant was the original CLONE hero replacement in Ben Reilly.

[Pav]

Complex? Maybe, but their relationship is still more easily defined that Peter's and Ben's.

Ben and Peter came to see themselves as brothers. Nothing difficult to define there.

And yeah, I still remember Ben. He's still my favorite comic book character of all time.

Not sure there's really much to say, though, regarding X-23 replacing Logan as Wolverine in comparison to Ben replacing Peter as Spidey. Maybe Marvel will be more successful this time?

-Pav, who misses the original Scarlet suit...

[MajorHoy]

I think what I meant was the original CLONE hero replacement in Ben Reilly.

Probably, but it's sloppy not to say it if that's what was intended.

Or, the poster could be one of those who thinks anything that happened in comic books before they started reading qualifies as "ancient history".

[616MarvelYear is LeapYear]

Ben and Peter came to see themselves as brothers. Nothing difficult to define there.

And yeah, I still remember Ben. He's still my favorite comic book character of all time.

Not sure there's really much to say, though, regarding X-23 replacing Logan as Wolverine in comparison to Ben replacing Peter as Spidey. Maybe Marvel will be more successful this time?

-Pav, who misses the original Scarlet suit...

Exactly! I also miss the original Scarlet suit

[boots]

Probably, but it's sloppy not to say it if that's what was intended.

Or, the poster could be one of those who thinks anything that happened in comic books before they started reading qualifies as "ancient history".

or it could be that the poster's command of english isn't as good as yours. it's the www after all.

[MajorHoy]

or it could be that the poster's command of english isn't as good as yours. it's the www after all.

I don't know if leaving out a key word would be quite as likely to happen if English isn't a first language, though.