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    Agree that a Slimer origin story with the right writers could be a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingmyth View Post
    Writers can do more with the MCU, Ghostbusters is just impossible.
    A writer can do anything with Ghostbusters. The most obvious would be to introduce an Asian team, Amazonian team, African team, Scandanavian team, etc., each dealing with the specific ghost stories of that particular region. All civilizations have legends involving spirits and supernatural creatures, and all are vastly different while having some core common elements that can serve to unify the stories. Draw all the stories together eventually into a cataclysmic apocolypse-story that requires the teams to "cross over" into the ghost realm(s) to do battle to save the earth.

    The more I think about it, this direction seems like a no-brainer to me. The largest challenge is to make them all funny. Doing action movies that seem fresh is child's play compared to do doing comedies that remain fresh. There's a reason that successful comedy franchises in the past have pretty much all focused on the 18-25 demographic - the turnover rate is very rapid, so old stuff is new again because it's a largely new audience. Now in the age of streaming video, those long running comedy franchises are pretty rare.
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    I'd rather they leave this franchise alone after the remake flopped.

    Ghostbusters never needed to be continued in film. They couldn't get a cast reunion together outside the video game and after Harold Ramis died any idea about a third film should have been put to rest. They had plenty of material to work with the franchise in other mediums. It didn't need saving as a film franchise. It left enough of a legacy as a pop culture icon of the 80s to stay as a two film series. The problem is film studios are too greedy for their own good and think that established franchise films coming back hold some kind of guaranteed profit margins based on brand name alone. Nobody is smart enough to look at a brand like Ghostbusters and properly and efficiently determine the best ways to utilize it based on the fanbase and the legacy it holds.



    Look at Back to the future as an example of utilizing the brand in ways that don't mess with the legacy it left. They show enormous respect to their fanbase coming out with different merchandise and apparel and media over the years. They know you can't recreate the magic they had so they let the franchise live on through the fans love of the trilogy. Ghostbusters did so well with the video game. They gave their fans something so authentic and respectful to the films that it's such a shame they had to go the route they did for GB2016 in order to bank off its name. I am very thankful the new film flopped at the box-office and how it killed the franchise and sometimes it's better to kill something then let it suffer. This franchise is now like a wounded half-dead animal since the Real GBs ended and nothing else good has came out in the last 25 years with the exception of the 2009 video game and the merchandise and comics by IDW, no movies since then and other games during the years have sucked and Extreme GBs was ok show and this remake flopped at the box-office.



    You just can't recapture the same lightning in a bottle like the original as the original focused on a brilliant mature intelligent script and reminded how well crafted it is a supernatural fantasy comedy adventure with horror trimmings, a solid cast of talented comedy actors who are given just enough space to subtly give wit around without undermining the world of the story. Has an edge to it in the original as the original is what i call great filmmaking.



    The new version hits some viewers in the face with painfully forced juvenile Sandler (modern Sandler mind you)-esque humor, a poorly written unfunny script, poor pacing and plus no passion but money grab is. Plus none of the edge of the original movie and a lame villain who lacks the menace of Gozer and Viggo. This shows what 80's and 90's comedy did right, and what some modern comedy is doing wrong. Not to mention shooting the logo in the dick as a bad guy which is an insult to the franchise and there is no passion in this remake and just a cash-grab made by Sony. I have a few female friends who thought this remake was poorly written, sexist towards men as one of my lady friends said it's an unfunny insult to women with such man hating agenda and well i enjoyed a few of Feig's movies, i felt he was the wrong guy for this project and even he didn't want to do it at first but he had to for the paycheck and he felt out of his comfort zone as R-rated films is what he is good at and not big budget PG-13 films as after this flopped, he should go back to original stuff.



    Hollywood needs to focus on making good films and focus on the new franchises like Jack Reacher, Bourne, John Wick etc. not digging up some old favorite franchises and desperately sucking the dried up blood of the corpses into some focus-group approved poorly written piece of junk. Ghostbusters is best left alone. They should had made Ghostbusters 3 years ago like in the 90's, and now that Harold Ramis is dead so has Ghostbusters.



    I hope some people here will understand what i am saying as the world has moved on and some franchises need to be dead and left alone only for the memory of the original to be seen/loved/watched by everyone for years to come on what quality filmmaking is all about and that i am right with my truth about why some series should be left alone as some would and not to recycle some past glories as we moved on and need some fresh new things for current film.



    Sometimes dead is better like Jud Crandall in Pet Sematary would say and the franchise died with Harold Ramis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPERECWFAN1 View Post
    Sony needs to get everything lined up fully if a reboot gets planned. That means the video game and movie need to hit at the same deal and both need to be good. While the movie did bad at the box office , the game was more terrible and was placed on a number of worst game of the year charts. The studio that made the game declared bankruptcy and is outta business months after its release as well.

    A full reboot in a few years with Reitman behind it. Up the horror level to it and make it less a BWA HA HA comedy and something that does get laughs. The 1st one wasn't some race to be funny. What worked was all the characters fit a role and was funny for what they'd do or say.
    Nah.

    Realize that there just isn't the sort of luck that you ran into doing it the first time.

    Once you've done that, just leave it alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    Nah.

    Realize that there just isn't the sort of luck that you ran into doing it the first time.

    Once you've done that, just leave it alone.
    You can make money with it. The 1st film wasn't luck , it was basically a script planned by Ramis and Ackryd for him and Belushi. They went about making the film as we saw. The studio didn't realize how successful it would be or that it would spawn cartoons , toys and more. But they jumped fully in for that cash grab.

    They have a franchise that can make serious money. But they need better planning all around for it.
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    Not lucky when it came to making money.

    Lucky when it came to the pieces falling into place to make it worthwhile as a film.

    Ain't gonna happen again. It's just time to leave that be unless you want to keep making the same mistake they just made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    Not lucky when it came to making money.

    Lucky when it came to the pieces falling into place to make it worthwhile as a film.

    Ain't gonna happen again. It's just time to leave that be unless you want to keep making the same mistake they just made.
    But do you agree they need to leave this franchise alone like i mentioned and focus on new glory with new franchises and the franchise died with Harold

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJBopp View Post
    A writer can do anything with Ghostbusters. The most obvious would be to introduce an Asian team, Amazonian team, African team, Scandanavian team, etc., each dealing with the specific ghost stories of that particular region. All civilizations have legends involving spirits and supernatural creatures, and all are vastly different while having some core common elements that can serve to unify the stories. Draw all the stories together eventually into a cataclysmic apocolypse-story that requires the teams to "cross over" into the ghost realm(s) to do battle to save the earth.

    The more I think about it, this direction seems like a no-brainer to me. The largest challenge is to make them all funny. Doing action movies that seem fresh is child's play compared to do doing comedies that remain fresh. There's a reason that successful comedy franchises in the past have pretty much all focused on the 18-25 demographic - the turnover rate is very rapid, so old stuff is new again because it's a largely new audience. Now in the age of streaming video, those long running comedy franchises are pretty rare.
    I still cannot see that working, shoehorning Ghostbusters into a cinematic universe is the worst Idea. Sony should just leave Ghostbusters alone and not cash in on the MCU.

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    I would say that Sony needs to take some risks with the franchise, on the basis of high risk, high reward. But thats what they did with GB 2016. Maybe its time they just start playing it super safe again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomServofan View Post
    But do you agree they need to leave this franchise alone like i mentioned and focus on new glory with new franchises and the franchise died with Harold
    Not that it "Died".

    More like "The reality is that doing anything of the caliber that we initially pulled off is almost impossible in the current climate. Factoring for that, let's just let it alone."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Taylor View Post
    I would say that Sony needs to take some risks with the franchise, on the basis of high risk, high reward. But thats what they did with GB 2016. Maybe its time they just start playing it super safe again.
    They likely are gonna have to let Reitman meet with script writers and plan out things to a better level. Sony has a video game division that tops right now. They should have a video game that fucking rocks. Instead they have released 2 terrible games in 2 years. They have the very thing you want as a company that could sell toys , clothes , video games etc. They just need to get it all lined up perfect.
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    A Ghostbusters shared universe won't work unless they somehow exist in the same world as other stuff. Ecto Force is still Ghostbusters and even if they still have other teams it all still falls under Ghostbusters. That's not really a shared universe. I guess X Files and Men in Black can kinda/sorta crossover in the same world but the Ghostbusters don't really need to exist in a shared universe with other series.

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    Oh, thank goodness for Netflix putting up the Real Ghostbusters, finally. It's been said before here, but I'll reiterate: some of the plots for the cartoon really could have been stretched to movie length, especially during the syndicated season. Of course, we have J. Michael Straczynski to thank for that. The Doomsday episode, Cthulu, Ragnarok, etc.

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    Ι saw the movie. It wasn't bad by any means. It had a lot of toilet humour but it didn't deserved all that burying.

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