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    What is the difference between a mutant and someone that gets his powers through an experiment or accident? Don't they become mutants once they have powers? I ask because I don't get why one side is more accepted then the other

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    A mutant is a being (usually otherwise human) who possesses a genetic trait called an X-gene that allows the mutant to naturally develop superhuman powers and abilities. Human mutants are considered to be of the subspecies Homo sapiens superior or simply Homo superior, an evolutionary progeny of Homo sapiens, and are considered the next stage in human evolution, though whether this is true or not is a subject of much debate in-universe. The people with these genes are called Mutants.

    Other superheroes do not have that gene and will not suddenly gain genes when they get powers through accidents. So they are a different category of humans. Marvel's mutates, are characters who develop their powers only after exposure to outside stimuli or energies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shriveling_memo View Post
    What is the difference between a mutant and someone that gets his powers through an experiment or accident? Don't they become mutants once they have powers? I ask because I don't get why one side is more accepted then the other
    A. A lot of people aren't thrilled with super humans in general.

    B. There is a causality and regulability to the other forms of super powers, where as mutants will spontaneously gain powers they may not be able to control at randoms times usually around puberty (not an age you'd want someone to have superpowers anyway), potentially killing everyone around them.

    C. Follow up to B, if someone has accident and their touch will melt whoever they come in contact with, you can lock them away for treatment for the safety of themselves and others, and no one will object. Do they to a mutant and to quote Hydra cap, you're a hysterical bigot for seeing them as a threat.

    D. The Brotherhood of Evil Mutants did nothing good for their PR.

    E. Now the ultimate cop out! Because an evil sentient mind controlling bacteria made them hate them!
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    Mutants in theory are the evolution of mankind and as a consequence they will replace humans in the future. Prejudice happens to mutants by two factors the fear of being overcome as a species and the fear of their powers.

    Already people who gain powers by experiences or in a simple term meta-human do not always pass their powers to the next generation and their creation are isolated acts.

    But to be fair the fear and prejudice have grown in relation to meta-humans recently with the fall of people's confidence in the heroic community.

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    Probably the same reason a black guy is more likely to be stopped and questioned while simply walking down a street than a white guy even though we're all human...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master of Sound View Post
    A mutant is a being (usually otherwise human) who possesses a genetic trait called an X-gene that allows the mutant to naturally develop superhuman powers and abilities. Human mutants are considered to be of the subspecies Homo sapiens superior or simply Homo superior, an evolutionary progeny of Homo sapiens, and are considered the next stage in human evolution, though whether this is true or not is a subject of much debate in-universe. The people with these genes are called Mutants.

    Other superheroes do not have that gene and will not suddenly gain genes when they get powers through accidents. So they are a different category of humans. Marvel's mutates, are characters who develop their powers only after exposure to outside stimuli or energies.
    Yeah, which is why Spider-Man, the Fantastic Four, the Hulk, and the Inhumans aren't mutants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shriveling_memo View Post
    What is the difference between a mutant and someone that gets his powers through an experiment or accident? Don't they become mutants once they have powers? I ask because I don't get why one side is more accepted then the other
    No they don't. You can't become a mutant, you are born a mutant. Other heroes like most of the Avengers are normal humans who gained their powers somehow from external forces. The mutants are born like that(with the X-Gene) and just awake their powers during puberty or so.

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    actually there is no difference at all between superhumans and mutants expect that the mutants are endowed with powers due to their genetics while others are products of martial training super soldier experiments radiation etc. the idea for people to only fear mutants in universe is absurd but that trope is the basis of the mutants that the x gene is feared while the others like ff and avengers get adored although they also are subject to harsh scrutinity from time to time it is now where as bad as to what it is for mutants. the only persons who could understand the mutants position is spiderman and the hulk who are also feared and despised for whatever reasons although in case of spiderman it is no longer so.

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    According to the old Days of Future Past, and various other Marvel sources from that era, the Celestials messed with humanity aeons ago, and created the Eternals and Deviants, as well as the potential for mutation. A small fraction of people are full on mutants, and are either born with unusual powers and / or appearance, or express those traits at puberty. A larger percentage have the latent potential for mutation, and if exposed to a triggering stimuli, such as a super-soldier serum, radioactive spider bite, cosmic rays or gamma rays, will bust out with super-powers and / or an unusual appearance. (In the Days of Future Past, the Sentinels forbade these 'latents' from breeding, but didn't round them up and kill them, like it did full-on mutants.) The last group were, at least by the Sentinels, considered 'pure' human, and, presumably if exposed to cosmic rays, radioactive spider-bites, gamma rays, etc. would just die of radiation poisoning over a few agonizing minutes/days/weeks.

    These 'pure' humans have never been mentioned again, as far as I know, and there have been many examples of entire populations of people gaining spider-powers (spider island) or hulking out (Diablo turned an entire town into Hulks), with no percentage being shown just writhing on the ground and dying in horrible pain (which would be pretty dark), so who knows if that's still canon...

    So, in short, the difference between mutants and people like Spider-Man, the Fantastic Four, Captain America and the Hulk is that the latter required some sort of kickstart to activate their potential for mutation, already built into their DNA by the Celestials, just not to the degree of it manifesting a puberty (or birth).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sutekh View Post
    According to the old Days of Future Past, and various other Marvel sources from that era, the Celestials messed with humanity aeons ago, and created the Eternals and Deviants, as well as the potential for mutation. A small fraction of people are full on mutants, and are either born with unusual powers and / or appearance, or express those traits at puberty. A larger percentage have the latent potential for mutation, and if exposed to a triggering stimuli, such as a super-soldier serum, radioactive spider bite, cosmic rays or gamma rays, will bust out with super-powers and / or an unusual appearance. (In the Days of Future Past, the Sentinels forbade these 'latents' from breeding, but didn't round them up and kill them, like it did full-on mutants.) The last group were, at least by the Sentinels, considered 'pure' human, and, presumably if exposed to cosmic rays, radioactive spider-bites, gamma rays, etc. would just die of radiation poisoning over a few agonizing minutes/days/weeks.

    These 'pure' humans have never been mentioned again, as far as I know, and there have been many examples of entire populations of people gaining spider-powers (spider island) or hulking out (Diablo turned an entire town into Hulks), with no percentage being shown just writhing on the ground and dying in horrible pain (which would be pretty dark), so who knows if that's still canon...

    So, in short, the difference between mutants and people like Spider-Man, the Fantastic Four, Captain America and the Hulk is that the latter required some sort of kickstart to activate their potential for mutation, already built into their DNA by the Celestials, just not to the degree of it manifesting a puberty (or birth).
    Thank you, yes it's said that celestials meddled with humans in the beginning. I thought this was a fact known in universe, so that every would accept that there was no difference between the mutants and heroes like the hulk or spiderman.

    What it sounds like is that there mutants but just like inhumans they need stimuli to trigger there powers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nazrel View Post
    E. Now the ultimate cop out! Because an evil sentient mind controlling bacteria made them hate them!
    Not a cop out of its true �� lol

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    Do those with mutant powers tend to be more powerful than those with non-mutant powers?

    I read online somewhere that mutants tend to only get one superpower. Is this true? Inhumans also seem to "only" get one superpower as well. Do non-mutant tend to get more than one power?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenixx9 View Post
    Do those with mutant powers tend to be more powerful than those with non-mutant powers?
    Kind of the opposite. There are plenty of mutants with crap powers, or just freaky appearances, like Beak or whomever. Meanwhile, people exposed to gamma radiation or cosmic rays or bitten by radioactive powers tend to get more stable powers, and, in some cases, 'better' powers. (That said, there are other sources that can prove as random as mutation, such as the Inhuman Terrigenesis, or whatever the Power Broker does, which creates as many 'freaks' as it does super-wrestlers.)

    I read online somewhere that mutants tend to only get one superpower. Is this true? Inhumans also seem to "only" get one superpower as well. Do non-mutant tend to get more than one power?
    When originally introduced, this seemed to be a theme, but *immediately,* they indicated it wasn't a rule by having Jean Grey, with both telekinesis and telepathy (and strapping all sorts of sub-powers under either, like force fields and astral projection, which have little or nothing to do with reading minds or moving objects with your mind). *Long* before the nonsense of 'secondary mutation,' you had characters like Nightcrawler and Wolverine, each with multiple powers (teleportation, superhuman agility, blending into shadows, wall-climbing / super-human senses, regeneration, eventually even bone claws). Storm could throw lightning bolts, completely separate of being able to control weather (to the degree that it's practically all she's done for the last couple decades, abandoning weather control for what's the comic-book equivalent of having a gun). Cyclops could absorb energy from his brother's blasts. Beast was strong, agile *and* able to regenerate from bullet wounds in seconds (back in the days when Wolverine's only super-power was super-speed, and his claws came off with his gloves...).

    The Inhumans tends to be similarly inconsistent. Medusa has super-hair. Crystal can control all four classical elements. Black Bolt has some sort of electron manipulation that allows him to make force fields, shoot zaps, fly, boost his physical strength and toughness to throw down with the Thing, and his voice-thing. Triton's amphibious *and* has super-speed of some degree. Karnak *demonstrably* has super-powers (and a massive not-human noggin), and yet has been described as having *not* undergone Terrigenesis, making him perhaps a mutant? I don't even know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shriveling_memo View Post
    What is the difference between a mutant and someone that gets his powers through an experiment or accident? Don't they become mutants once they have powers? I ask because I don't get why one side is more accepted then the other
    A mutant is hated by everyone.
    Someone that get powers by experiment or accident is worshiped by everyone.

    That's the main difference

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    Regular super humans have never came out and said that they were the better brand or humanity and where going to replace everybody (well, with one or two major exceptions) but there are quite a few groups of mutants that have said they're better than normal people and even Beast and Xavier (back when they were considered good guys by everyone) would publicly say that eventually humanity would go away and be replaced by mutants.

    When you're the group being replaced or told you're inferior, well, that just doesn't set well with the normal folks.

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