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    well he also invented a chemical potion and drank it just to mutate himself further to protect his secret identity and almost died later due to a flaw in it which his teen self was able to cure by just glancing at his work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theoneandonly View Post
    well he also invented a chemical potion and drank it just to mutate himself further to protect his secret identity and almost died later due to a flaw in it which his teen self was able to cure by just glancing at his work.
    Not sure if that feat is helping.

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    So we've denunked Beast and Charles's greatest technological achievements.

    Does Charles even have others? Cerebro seems to be his apex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Fist View Post
    So we've denunked Beast and Charles's greatest technological achievements.

    Does Charles even have others? Cerebro seems to be his apex.
    Not sure about Xavier's other tech. His danger room was about on par with standard villainous lair traps, until he got the big Shi'ar upgrade. He had a hover-wheelchair, but I think that is Shi'ar tech as well. I think that he may have also tinkered with gear that boosted the range of his telepathy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shellhead View Post
    Not sure if that feat is helping.
    but he says he is a doctor at the tender age of 16 or 19 which is a bendis feat. I don't know how he does it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theoneandonly View Post
    but he says he is a doctor at the tender age of 16 or 19 which is a bendis feat. I don't know how he does it.
    I have many complaints about Bendis, but he is actually just reporting on wacky continuity in this case. Beast originally left the X-Men when he was 20, and within a year, he was working as a research scientist at Brand Corporation. He left Brand to join the Avengers, then the Defenders, then X-Factor, and finally back to the X-Men, without much of a break at any given point. So, either Beast already completed his advanced degrees by 16, or he wrapped them up fast by age 21, while apparently attending classes off-panel throughout the original X-Men run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shellhead View Post
    I have many complaints about Bendis, but he is actually just reporting on wacky continuity in this case. Beast originally left the X-Men when he was 20, and within a year, he was working as a research scientist at Brand Corporation. He left Brand to join the Avengers, then the Defenders, then X-Factor, and finally back to the X-Men, without much of a break at any given point. So, either Beast already completed his advanced degrees by 16, or he wrapped them up fast by age 21, while apparently attending classes off-panel throughout the original X-Men run.
    Heresy. Every second of off-panel time during the original X-men run had Hank and Bobby trying to get laid in jazz bars.

    Occasionally supported by Warren when they ran low on cash.

    This is now canon.

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    Heresy. Every second of off-panel time during the original X-men run had Hank and Bobby trying to get laid in jazz bars.

    Occasionally supported by Warren when they ran low on cash.

    This is now canon.
    It wasn't already?

    Also, they really need to bring back that beatnik poet that used to appear in all the early X-men issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan2099 View Post
    It wasn't already?

    Also, they really need to bring back that beatnik poet that used to appear in all the early X-men issues.
    You mean the Toad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shellhead View Post
    You mean the Toad?
    This guy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan2099 View Post
    It wasn't already?

    Also, they really need to bring back that beatnik poet that used to appear in all the early X-men issues.
    Bernard the post, from original X-Men run. Seen at Coffee-a-Gogo.

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    To me it seems like Hank had more knowledge on a technical level, and he certainly had a wider field of expertise. Beast was much more of a hard sciences expert whereas Xavier -- while no slouch in genetics and life sciences -- specialized more in psychiatry and the Humanities.

    But moreso, even if Hank was technically smarter, Xavier had been the better leader, mentor, and administrator. For all his faults, Xavier was wiser. Beast tends to be portrayed as much more impulsive, like when he gulped down the mutation formula or created the time machine to fetch the O5. Even in an alternate timeline, when Beast became headmaster and the pressures of running the school were getting to him, he tried a little bit of Kick to enhance his abilities, but then that lead to Sublime conquering the world in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Fist View Post
    Beast for sure.

    Xavier greatest intellectual achievement is building Cerebro, isn't it?

    Beast built a time machine just to ruin Cyclops's day.
    Beast started building time machines because Cyclops told him too. See Messiah War.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Fist View Post
    I thought it was mister sinister who made it from Summers DNA?

    Normal 616 Beast def cured it tho.
    Xavier, Beast and Moira cured it together, and of those three Moira did the lion share of the actual thinking involved which is why Mystique murdered her in an attempt to prevent the Legacy Virus from being cured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DurararaFTW View Post
    Beast started building time machines because Cyclops told him too. See Messiah War.
    I'm not seeing how that takes away from it.
    If anything, it makes it better. Some lunatic tells him to build something that is nowhere near his area of expertise, and he builds it anyway. That's more impressive than the guy that probably knows mor about how his powers work than anybody else building a massive power booster.

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