Marvel should make Valkyrie look like she does in the movie

[vitruvian]

Well, no.
I am. on board if Marvel decides to add another member to the Valkyrior. But changing Brunhilde's look in comics is just pointless and unnecessary. Also I am not even sure Tessa is playing Brunnhilde.

I don't think she is supposed to be Brunnhilde at all, honestly... the other valkyrie that pushes her out of the way of Hela's attack in her traumatic flashback looks exactly like classic Defenders Brunnhilde, in fact.

Now, I wouldn't mind if they changed comics Brunnhilde to resemble her, mind you... as others have stated, there are plenty of ways in which it could be explained, especially considering Brunnhilde's past history of 'borrowing' mortal bodies. However, it might be even better to introduce a new MU character along the lines of Thompson's Scrapper #142, a rogue valkyrie (or possibly even Disir) roaming the spaceways.

[Frontier]

Come to think of it. What is Marvel planning with Valkyrie right now in comics?

Brunnhilde was in one of the future visions in Thor #700.

[johnnybourbon]

She was also more or less the lead of Fearless Defenders but its better to just pretend that book never happened

[johnnybourbon]

I don't think she is supposed to be Brunnhilde at all, honestly... the other valkyrie that pushes her out of the way of Hela's attack in her traumatic flashback looks exactly like classic Defenders Brunnhilde, in fact.

Her personality really couldn't have been more different from Brunnhilde's either, they're almost polar opposites. Valkyrie is often portrayed as an all-business, stone cold warrior that would make Frank Castle blush. (SPOILERS) The portrayal of Scrapper as a drunk/defeated/no reason to care, bounty hunter with no loyalties and a penchant for self destruction is basically the antithesis of Brunnhildes imposing, never-wavering shield maiden

[The Question]

Egyptians were (and are) caucasians/caucasoids (a group that spans not just northern, central and western Europe, but eastern Europeans, Spain, Portugal, southern Italy the Caucasus mountain area including Iran, Turkey, Daghestan, Georgia, and Armenia, north Africa, the middle east, central Asia, India save for possibly Dravidans, the Balkans, etc., so far more diverse than just saying white people) some pharaoh lineages like that of Tutankhamun and Akhenaten had red hair and blood similar to Celts. Some Berbers (North African aboriginals that predate the Arab Muslim migration there but have since mostly intermixed) have blond and red hair and blue, grey, and green eyes. Not really as far off in having some Brits play Egyptians as having someone of mostly sub-Saharan African descent play a viking god.
That being said the Marvel cinematic universe has already established their Norse gods as just aliens and not as connected with the Scandinavian peoples as the comic book versions; so while having a black Valkyrie there still is odd, it's not as odd as making the comic book version (an already well established character with a ton of history and a definitive connection to the Scandinavians that worshiped her) black.

Right. Robert the Bruce was Nubian too. Jesus.

[mace11]

some pharaoh lineages like that of Tutankhamun and Akhenaten had red hair and blood similar to Celts.

Not true.

Ancient Egyptians were not Caucasians. That's a white supremacist wet dream. European scholars asserted that the so-called 'Egyptians' were non-African until Cheikh Anta Diop's melanin pigmentation test on mummified pharaohs proved otherwise.

I suggest you familiarize yourself with professor Diop's work and his findings on the subject. You also might want to read The African Origin of Civilization: Myth or Reality, Precolonial Black Africa and Cheikh Anta Diop And the New Light
by John Henrik Clarke.


https://keyamsha.com/2017/04/10/the-...ikh-anta-diop/

"The ancient Egyptians were not 'white' in any European sense, nor were they 'Caucasian'... we can say that the earliest population of ancient Egypt included African people from the upper Nile, African people from the regions of the Sahara and modern Libya, and smaller numbers of people who had come from south-western Asia and perhaps the Arabian penisula."
--Robert Morkot (2005). The Egyptians: An Introduction. pp. 12-13

Ancient finds in the Western Desert of Egypt at Gebel Ramlah circa 5,000 BC show culture closely linked with indigenous tropical Africans of both the Saharan and sub-Saharan regions, not Europe or the Middle East. Dental studies put the inhabitants of Gebel Ramlah, closest to indigenous tropical African populations.
-- Burial practices of the Final Neolithic pastoralists at Gebel Ramlah, Western Desert of Egypt
Michal Kobusiewicz, Jacek Kabacinski, Romuald Schild, Joel D. Irish and Fred Wendorf
British Museum Studies in Ancient Egypt and Sudan 13 (2009): 147–74
http://www.britishmuseum.org/researc...busiewicz.aspx

"Over the last two decades, numerous contemporary (Khartoum Neolithic) sites and cemeteries have been excavated in the Central Sudan.. The most striking point to emerge is the overall similarity of early neolithic developments inhabitation, exchange, material culture and mortuary customs in the Khartoum region to those underway at the same time in the Egyptian Nile Valley, far to the north." (Wengrow, David (2003) "Landscapes of Knowledge, Idioms of Power: The African Foundations of Ancient Egyptian Civilization Reconsidered," in Ancient Egypt in Africa, David O'Connor and Andrew Reid, eds. Ancient Egypt in Africa. London: University College London Press, 2003, pp. 119-137)
--O'Connor, David B., Reid, Andrew
Ancient Egypt in Africa

And original natives of north africa were black and the original berbers are black.
Some are still black today.
Some egyptians are still black too.

The book was initially published under a number of different titles including Out of Africa's Eden: the peopling of the world in January 2003, and The Real Eve: Modern Man's Journey Out of Africa in June 2003.
Synopsis

In the book, Oppenheimer supports the theory that modern humans first emerged in Africa and that modern human behavior emerged in Africa prior to the out of Africa migration.

Oppenheimer writes that there was only one migration out of Africa that contributed to the peopling of the rest of the world. Oppenheimer believes that anatomically modern humans crossed the Red Sea from the Horn of Africa and followed the "southern coastal route" once in Asia.

Thus Oppenheimer is opposed to the theory that there was another out of Africa migration using a northern route along the Nile and into the Levant as suggested by Lahr and Foley 1994.The book also supports the theory that modern humans were in South Asia during the Toba catastrophe.
Oppenheimer uses familiar names to describe genetic lineages. The biblical analogies of Adam and Eve are used to describe the most recent common ancestors via mitochondrial DNA and the y-chromosome.

Other male lineages are described as Cain, Abel and Seth. Mitochondrial DNA haplogroups are frequently described using female names from regions where the haplogroups are common. For example the haplogroup M is named "Manju[disambiguation needed]" as it is frequent in India, and the haplogroup N is named "Nasreen" as it is predominant in Arabia.

Television documentary

The documentary The Real Eve, based on the book and known as Where We Came From in the United Kingdom, was released in 2002. The documentary was produced by the American cable TV network the Discovery Channel and was narrated by Danny Glover and directed by Andrew Piddington.

Original Dravidans are black asians by the way.

[Dr. Skeleton]

Hell no! THIS IS VALKYRIE!

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[Holt]

Marvel probably didn't expect so many people to come out of the movie liking the character that much, hence why they seem to not have much planned right now.

[Panic]

I don't think Marvel expected the film as a whole to be as big a hit as it is. They've got to be looking at Hemsworth's contract pretty closely now and wondering how quick they can try to recreate the success of T:R. I'm not sure they were planning on another Thor film, but now...

[MyriVerse]

Has Valkyrie even been seen since the Hickman run of the avengers? Since the universe hiccuped you could just have the new Valkyrie appear and no-one in the comic book would need to bat an eye

She was seen in recent issues of Hellcat, Monsters Unleashed, and Cap:Sam.

Pretty sure Marvel has just been schooled on the follies of this sort of thing.

I don't really think she made a good Valkyrie.

And keep Hollywood out of Marvel books.

Sure, why not? I bet if a country like Wakanda truly existed in the real world, people from around the world would flock to it. Europeans, Asians, people from the Latin world, and yes, even Americans. Ex-patriots galore.

Nah. If it really existed, its immigration policy would make Donald Trump look like a teddy bear.

[Holt]

And keep Hollywood out of Marvel books.

It's decades too late for that.

[Frontier]

Marvel probably didn't expect so many people to come out of the movie liking the character that much, hence why they seem to not have much planned right now.

I don't think a lot of people came out of Ant-Man loving Hope but we still got Nadia fairly soon after...

[Of Atlantis]

I don't think a lot of people came out of Ant-Man loving Hope but we still got Nadia fairly soon after...

Maybe they realized it didn't work?

Though we're still getting a Strange vs. Loki arc and a Hulk vs. Thor book...

[Holt]

I don't think a lot of people came out of Ant-Man loving Hope but we still got Nadia fairly soon after...

Even at the time though there were obviously plans to have Hope be the Wasp in the sequel. I'm sure Marvel figured if this was gonna be the MCU Wasp they might as well try to cash in on it in some manner.

Maybe they realized it didn't work?

Though we're still getting a Strange vs. Loki arc and a Hulk vs. Thor book...

There's literally no signs they're stopping. I'd be willing to bet money there is some sort of Avengers vs. Thanos crossover next year.

[Frontier]

There's literally no signs they're stopping. I'd be willing to bet money there is some sort of Avengers vs. Thanos crossover next year.

It can't be a coincidence that the Infinity Stones seem to be coming back to prominence in Legacy.