Marvel should make Valkyrie look like she does in the movie

[Michael Watkins]

Hell no! THIS IS VALKYRIE!

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She's certainly one Valkyrie. There are more (seeani Moonstar).

[Michael Watkins]

I don't think a lot of people came out of Ant-Man loving Hope but we still got Nadia fairly soon after...

The two characters don't have anything in common; besides the Wasp code name.

[Abe]

Egyptians were (and are) caucasians/caucasoids (a group that spans not just northern, central and western Europe, but eastern Europeans, Spain, Portugal, southern Italy the Caucasus mountain area including Iran, Turkey, Daghestan, Georgia, and Armenia, north Africa, the middle east, central Asia, India save for possibly Dravidans, the Balkans, etc., so far more diverse than just saying white people) some pharaoh lineages like that of Tutankhamun and Akhenaten had red hair and blood similar to Celts. Some Berbers (North African aboriginals that predate the Arab Muslim migration there but have since mostly intermixed) have blond and red hair and blue, grey, and green eyes. Not really as far off in having some Brits play Egyptians as having someone of mostly sub-Saharan African descent play a viking god.
That being said the Marvel cinematic universe has already established their Norse gods as just aliens and not as connected with the Scandinavian peoples as the comic book versions; so while having a black Valkyrie there still is odd, it's not as odd as making the comic book version (an already well established character with a ton of history and a definitive connection to the Scandinavians that worshiped her) black.

Caucasian/caucasoid is still used? I'm surprised...

About Egyptians dynasties I don't think it would applied to someone like Thutmose III... About Berbers you are right - but do not forget that North Africa wad also a part of the Roma Empire, that some "Barbaric invasions" occurred there too - the Vandals notably who gave their name to Andalusia in Spain - but also the Normans later. The Berberic languages are also linked to Semitic languages as Arabic. Not to forget people from the Southern side of the Sahara with Blue eyes. (And blonde aborigines in Australia).

Much more complicated history and realities than the very old classification of the races using words like "Caucasian...

[Abe]

She's certainly one Valkyrie. There are more (seeani Moonstar).

Yep!!!

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[Frontier]

The two characters don't have anything in common; besides the Wasp code name.

And being Hank Pym's daughter.

But that's besides the point, since Nadia's whole existence owes to Hope being the movie Wasp.

[Michael Watkins]

And being Hank Pym's daughter.

But that's besides the point, since Nadia's whole existence owes to Hope being the movie Wasp.

or maybe they thought that it was time for Jan to have a legacy of her own. or maybe they needed a younger character (who was also S.T.E.M related) and the Wasp identity fit the bill.

[Frontier]

or maybe they thought that it was time for Jan to have a legacy of her own. or maybe they needed a younger character (who was also S.T.E.M related) and the Wasp identity fit the bill.

That's like saying they introduced Fury Jr. to develop a Nick Fury legacy and add a new perspective to SHIELD .

[Michael Watkins]

That's like saying they introduced Fury Jr. to develop a Nick Fury legacy and add a new perspective to SHIELD .

well a Samuel L Jackson who looked like Nick Fury already existed and led the Ultimates (which informed the movies). and I can't think of any reason why they created Nick Fury jr. if anything, it would be confusing to people who saw the movies; where he certainly didn't have a grizzled WWII hero white guy as a father.

[Moon Ronin]

And being Hank Pym's daughter.

But that's besides the point, since Nadia's whole existence owes to Hope being the movie Wasp.

And Nadia means hope in Russian, so they are both Wasp, both Hanks's daughter and both named hope.

or maybe they thought that it was time for Jan to have a legacy of her own. or maybe they needed a younger character (who was also S.T.E.M related) and the Wasp identity fit the bill.

Janet has never had a solo, would think that they would work on her "legacy"as some one other than "part of the team" instead of introducing a completely new hero that gets a solo right off the bat. And with Moon Girl and Riri there are new S.T.E.M. related young female heroes already.

[Michael Watkins]

And Nadia means hope in Russian, so they are both Wasp, both Hanks's daughter and both named hope.

one is Hank's daughter with Janet Van Dyne. the other is Hank's daughter with Maria Trovaya. one was raised by Hank and resented him. the other had zero contact with Hank. one is a very serious businesswoman of some sort. the other is a bubbly (bordering on manic) teenager. and Nadia might be the Russian version of Hope. but they are not referring to her as 'Hope' anywhere in the books (unlike the MC2 Hope Pym). they are as dissimilar (moreso) as comic book Nick Fury is to cinematic universe Nick Fury. sure, they share the same name, an eyepatch, and job title. but no one is confusing old man Nick Fury with Samuel l Jackson Nick Fury.

[Frontier]

one is Hank's daughter with Janet Van Dyne. the other is Hank's daughter with Maria Trovaya. one was raised by Hank and resented him. the other had zero contact with Hank. one is a very serious businesswoman of some sort. the other is a bubbly (bordering on manic) teenager. and Nadia might be the Russian version of Hope. but they are not referring to her as 'Hope' anywhere in the books (unlike the MC2 Hope Pym). they are as dissimilar (moreso) as comic book Nick Fury is to cinematic universe Nick Fury. sure, they share the same name, an eyepatch, and job title. but no one is confusing old man Nick Fury with Samuel l Jackson Nick Fury.

But they are still meant to be stand-in's for the movie versions.

[Michael Watkins]

But they are still meant to be stand-in's for the movie versions.

if you say so. I don't see them that way. they certainly don't fill the roles of the cinematic characters. Janet is more movie-Hope than Nadia; if you really think about it. and Nick Fury jr is pretty much irrelevant. where was he during Secret Empire?

[Frontier]

if you say so. I don't see them that way. they certainly don't fill the roles of the cinematic characters. Janet is more movie-Hope than Nadia; if you really think about it. and Nick Fury jr is pretty much irrelevant. where was he during Secret Empire?

Only on her bad days .

[Moon Ronin]

one is Hank's daughter with Janet Van Dyne. the other is Hank's daughter with Maria Trovaya. one was raised by Hank and resented him. the other had zero contact with Hank. one is a very serious businesswoman of some sort. the other is a bubbly (bordering on manic) teenager. and Nadia might be the Russian version of Hope. but they are not referring to her as 'Hope' anywhere in the books (unlike the MC2 Hope Pym). they are as dissimilar (moreso) as comic book Nick Fury is to cinematic universe Nick Fury. sure, they share the same name, an eyepatch, and job title. but no one is confusing old man Nick Fury with Samuel l Jackson Nick Fury.

Of course they are not a carbon copy but,as Frontier stated Nadia exist due to Hope being in the MC2. Why else add young Wasp that is Pym's daughter and not give Janet a solo? The name Nadia can't really be a coincidence either. I've not seen the new Thor move yet but in the future I would not be surprised to a Valkyrie based off of Tessa Thompson's. It most likely won't be "the" Valkyrie redone as it won't be a carbon copy of the one in the movie. There is a want-to-be synergy between the Movies and the comic books.... Baby Groot...

if you say so. I don't see them that way. they certainly don't fill the roles of the cinematic characters. Janet is more movie-Hope than Nadia; if you really think about it. and Nick Fury jr is pretty much irrelevant. where was he during Secret Empire?

Where was MCU Nick during Captain America Civil War?

[Michael Watkins]

Of course they are not a carbon copy

she isn't even an amateur impersonation of the movie Hope. her creation could have been as simple as, "hey, why is it that no one ever talks about Pym's first wife? maybe we should do something with her; like introduce a long lost kid or something. what should we name her? I dunno, maybe something Russian sounding. *looks up Russian baby girl names* I've got it! there's actually a Russian version of 'Hope.'"

but,as Frontier stated Nadia exist due to Hope being in the MC2. Why else add young Wasp that is Pym's daughter and not give Janet a solo?

1) Nadia doesn't have the baggage of being connected to a cringe-inducing spousal abuse storyline
2) you can, realistically, make her a self-reliant super genius; since smart female teen characters are all the rage
3) she's younger so we can make her like the animated series Wasp or the one from the Her-Oes book (think about it: why did they make that book?)

The name Nadia can't really be a coincidence either. I've not seen the new Thor move yet but in the future I would not be surprised to a Valkyrie based off of Tessa Thompson's. It most likely won't be "the" Valkyrie redone as it won't be a carbon copy of the one in the movie. There is a want-to-be synergy between the Movies and the comic books.... Baby Groot...

I can promise you that they are not going to make Brunnhilde a black woman.

Where was MCU Nick during Captain America Civil War?

holding out for more money?