X-Men: Dark Phoenix Movie Speculation and News

[Divine Spark]

original trilogy shouldn't be used as example because it didn't had competition.

Or because it doesn't suit your narrative.

The Last Stand made BvS level money if you adjust inflation.

[Uncanny X-Man]

They didn't dump Vaughn. He wanted to focus on Kingsman and so he left.




Based on interviews going all the way back to 2014, they always intended for Wolverine to get his adamantium. They just had Mystique posing Stryker to show that she was going around saving Mutants like she did earlier in the film. Wolverine still went into the military and volunteered for the Weapon X between the 10 year gap as shown in Logan.

Ok thanks, I stand corrected about Vaughn. Regarding Mystique and the ending of DoFP... I'm sorry but interviews are not canon unless the ideas expressed make it to the screen, or at least are hinted at. As it stands, that scene went absolutely nowhere.

[Xelossik]

Or because it doesn't suit your narrative.

The Last Stand made BvS level money if you adjust inflation.

but last stand was more about x-men than second trilogy. i prefer first trilogy.

[Uncanny X-Man]

psylurker :

after Deadpool?
after Gotg?
after Batman Dark Knight?
after Avengers?
after BvS?
after suicide squad?
after Logan?

that strategy is weak financially

All the X-Men movies have been profitable so far, some more, some less so. Yes of course there are movies that make MORE money, but Fox has yet to take a financial hit that makes them question their overall approach, or if they're better off selling the rights back, or whatever. As long as these movies are profitable very little will ever change.

That is to say, if Dark Phoenix turns out to be a success, we can look forward to another round of Kinberg, Lawrence, Fassbender & friends.

[Divine Spark]

Ok thanks, I stand corrected about Vaughn. Regarding Mystique and the ending of DoFP... I'm sorry but interviews are not canon unless the ideas expressed make it to the screen, or at least are hinted at. As it stands, that scene went absolutely nowhere.

It was hinted with the monologue at the end of the film where it referenced what Hank said about time being like a river. Saying that you can change the tide of a river but says nothing about the current.

[Colossus1980]

Quite a few spin doctors on the X-Men movie threads.

[Franchise408]

original trilogy shouldn't be used as example because it didn't had competition.

Franchise408 :

Compared to other super hero movies?
compared to DOFP?
compared to Deadpool?
compared to Logan?
weak

So?

Just because other movies made more doesn't mean that these ones are financially weak.

It's not an "either / or" situation. There are different levels of success.

Every single X-Men movie has been a financial success. The fact that other movies have been more financially successful does not negate that.

That's like saying if you went into a casino and won $50, that you walked out a loser just because someone else hit the Mega Millions jackpot.

[Xelossik]

So?

Just because other movies made more doesn't mean that these ones are financially weak.

It's not an "either / or" situation. There are different levels of success.

Every single X-Men movie has been a financial success. The fact that other movies have been more financially successful does not negate that.

That's like saying if you went into a casino and won $50, that you walked out a loser just because someone else hit the Mega Millions jackpot.

how would you feel if your coworks would earn much more?

[Uncanny X-Man]

It was hinted with the monologue at the end of the film where it referenced what Hank said about time being like a river. Saying that you can change the tide of a river but says nothing about the current.

Ehhhh... that's still very vague. And it seems to only apply if it suits the narrative. Yet Magneto and Mystique didn't go back to being villains, and Angel and Nightcrawler's parents got squirrelly 20 years earlier than last time. If "all this has happened before and will happen again" in the great Battlestar Galactica tradition, it only seems to apply to Wolverine and the Weapon X project.

[Divine Spark]

Ehhhh... that's still very vague. And it seems to only apply if it suits the narrative. Yet Magneto and Mystique didn't go back to being villains, and Angel and Nightcrawler's parents got squirrelly 20 years earlier than last time. If "all this has happened before and will happen again" in the great Battlestar Galactica tradition, it only seems to apply to Wolverine and the Weapon X project.

Magneto did go back to being a villian in Apocalypse and then realizes the error of his ways. Remember, in DOFP the older Magneto also realized that he was wrong with him saying that he sent Mystique down a dangerous path and shaking Charles hand saying his villian days were a waste of a time. So Magneto in Apocalypse reformed like in the original timeline, but much earlier.

Mystique remains to be seen.

Angel was an oversight by the writers.

Nightcrawler's X2 actor Alan Cumming was a teenager in the 80s. So it fits.

[ChildOfTheAtom]

Quite a few spin doctors on the X-Men movie threads.

They love X-MEN movie's here and hate X-MEN comics it's weird

[Uncanny X-Man]

Magneto did go back to being a villian in Apocalypse and then realizes the error of his ways. Remember, in DOFP the older Magneto also realized that he was wrong with him saying that he sent Mystique down a dangerous path and shaking Charles hand saying his villian days were a waste of a time. So Magneto in Apocalypse reformed like in the original timeline, but much earlier.

Mystique remains to be seen.

Angel was an oversight by the writers.

Nightcrawler's X2 actor Alan Cumming was a teenager in the 80s. So it fits.

And Jubilee is a vampire in the movies as well? An eternal teenager
But seriously about Angel: either you (as in the director/writer) are consistent in your approach, or everyone will see that the king is naked.

[Uncanny X-Man]

how would you feel if your coworks would earn much more?

Just to put things in perspective, bearing in mind that the numbers are what's been reported on the Internet so definitely not 100% correct, but still to give you an idea: the sum that Fox reportedly paid for the X-Men rights including animation has been reported as $2.6 million.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.c...rights-a150138

Total box office so far is in the region of $5 billion. Adjust all the numbers to the times, inflation and whatnot... Doesn't change the fact that Fox paid a ridiculous amount for perpetual rights of a multi-billion franchise. In no context aren't the X-Men an unmitigated success for Fox.

[Colossus1980]

how would you feel if your coworks would earn much more?

I wonder if any X-Men movie will ever break 300M domestically, not counting Deadpool.

X-Men movies seems to just lag behind MCU and DCEU. They look like TV movies compared to the big two.

[Colossus1980]

They love X-MEN movie's here and hate X-MEN comics it's weird

That is weird. Explains their taste in movies.