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    lol. Did they read the Dark Phoenix Saga? Basically, Jean can't control her sexual appetites once unleashed by the Hellfire Club, genocides a planet for kicks. Must kill herself to contain the unrestrained sexuality. What is that, fifth wave post-modern feminism?
    Let the flames destroy all but that which is pure and true!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogaflame View Post
    lol. Did they read the Dark Phoenix Saga? Basically, Jean can't control her sexual appetites once unleashed by the Hellfire Club, genocides a planet for kicks. Must kill herself to contain the unrestrained sexuality. What is that, fifth wave post-modern feminism?
    Most people who see this movie will never have read a single X-MEN comic let alone DPS.


    Just the fact that a female is the main antgonist in a X-MEN movie is an accomplishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChildOfTheAtom View Post
    Why recycle anything from that movie? They need to do everything different
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    "Do their own thing"...

    "Recycle content"...

    That's a deleted scene. Wasn't actually used in the official film.

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    I'm very excited and yet cautiously concerned about this movie. I absolutely want a Dark Phoenix movie but I really want a GOOD one. And honestly, I wish they would take the time to build up Jean and Scott more, do a Phoenix movie and then a Dark Phoenix movie a year or two later. Not to say that they can't do a good story in one movie, just wish we could have that build up. And then let that be the end of the X-Men series (or Deadpool 3 which ever is last.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Man of Sin View Post
    That's a deleted scene. Wasn't actually used in the official film.
    They should've deleted the whole movie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Man of Sin View Post
    They need to do what Civil War and Logan did and do their own thing.
    do you mean what they have been doing for 17 years?
    I dont see Fox doint that. Fox loves respecting the source material and staying faithful

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    "Say the name Dark Phoenix to any X-Men fan, and you are bound to get an intense reaction. The Dark Phoenix Saga is one of the most famous comic book arcs of all time, and now, according to Entertainment Weekly, X-Men: Dark Phoenix is coming to the big screen. This is excellent news for fans of Jean Grey's meteoric rise to power, and people looking for more feminism in their superhero movies"


    No. Please no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HaydnC95 View Post
    "Say the name Dark Phoenix to any X-Men fan, and you are bound to get an intense reaction. The Dark Phoenix Saga is one of the most famous comic book arcs of all time, and now, according to Entertainment Weekly, X-Men: Dark Phoenix is coming to the big screen. This is excellent news for fans of Jean Grey's meteoric rise to power, and people looking for more feminism in their superhero movies"
    This sounds more like the Phoenix Saga not Dark Phoenix Saga. DP is about Jean's fall, corruption and sacrifice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaddieGrey View Post
    This sounds more like the Phoenix Saga not Dark Phoenix Saga. DP is about Jean's fall, corruption and sacrifice.
    Quote Originally Posted by HaydnC95 View Post
    "Say the name Dark Phoenix to any X-Men fan, and you are bound to get an intense reaction. The Dark Phoenix Saga is one of the most famous comic book arcs of all time, and now, according to Entertainment Weekly, X-Men: Dark Phoenix is coming to the big screen. This is excellent news for fans of Jean Grey's meteoric rise to power, and people looking for more feminism in their superhero movies"
    Is that an official quote from Fox or just Entertainment Weekly spitballing?

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    Hela is the first main female antagonist for the MCU. For Thor: Ragnarok. And yes, the fact that a female is the main protagonist and antagonist is a huge change in direction for the X-Men movies, which basically have been oriented between the struggle between two white dudes (Xavier and Magneto). Just the fact the film is titled Dark Phoenix, after the female antagonist is a dramatic change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AbnormallyNormal View Post
    To reply to ChildOfTheAtom: I have no idea how representative or typical those comments you quoted are. How could anyone know? We would need to be remotely scientific and try to use surveys or something to measure the actual overall fan mood or impression.

    For all I know those could just be the same typical whiners who just think MCU is the greatest and anything else must suck. It has become the default cool thing to say "Fox X movies suck, MCU rules". It doesnt take a lot of guts to say something like that on social media, mostly you'll get agreement from other ignorant people when you say it. It's easy and cheap. But I am interested in opinions of people who actually watch the X-movies. How they feel about the 3 upcoming, not the typical people who just instinctively hate or bash everything because it isn't MCU
    Nope. The cool thing to say is "MCU is formulaic, it's just spectacle, every movie is the same."

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    Quote Originally Posted by WallStreeter View Post
    Hela is the first main female antagonist for the MCU. For Thor: Ragnarok. And yes, the fact that a female is the main protagonist and antagonist is a huge change in direction for the X-Men movies, which basically have been oriented between the struggle between two white dudes (Xavier and Magneto). Just the fact the film is titled Dark Phoenix, after the female antagonist is a dramatic change.
    Jean is not really equivalent to Hela.

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    Whoops, the writer's strike has been declared. I guess this won't make its release date after all. Even Deadpool 2 is questionable. Only The New Mutants seem to be safe for now as Kinberg said the scripting would be finalised in April.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Man of Sin View Post
    Yeah, I doubt they would do the whole thing but elements of it. Like how Apocalypse recycled that unused bathroom concept from X1.
    When Scott blasts off the toilet door and that kid? That was... unimaginative, to say the least.

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    Well.... its an idea from year 1999, so clearly it was dated at this point lol

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