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    Default Strongest brick that 616 Colossus can defeat?

    Wellp, it's well established on this board that, for someone as powerful as Piotr, his solo track record is less than stellar. Considering his strength, durability, increased speed, and years of fighting skills, who's the strongest brick that he CAN beat?

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    EDIT: Piotr must be able to beat them 6/10 times

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    Possibly Ben Grimm...? Rage?

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    Most bricks are significantly stronger or weaker than Colossus, so there are a limited number of opponents at his own level that he can beat. Ben Grimm is probably the best that he can beat, and that will be a tough fight.

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    Just how strong is Peter these days?

    Is the Thing still at the 85 tonnage?

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    I would say he can take the Thing in a challenging fight that he'll lose as often as win.

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    Thing and She-Hulk are probably the strongest bricks Colossus can beat, but they can beat him just as often as he beats them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basara View Post
    Thing and She-Hulk are probably the strongest bricks Colossus can beat, but they can beat him just as often as he beats them.
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    Judging by how She-Hulk has been portrayed, I'd say she'd be more likely to take a majority against Piotr.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpandpointies View Post
    Judging by how She-Hulk has been portrayed, I'd say she'd be more likely to take a majority against Piotr.
    That's my inclination as well.

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    I'm going to edit my post to ask about bricks he can defeat 6/10 times.

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    In which case we're probably back to one of the guys I mentioned in my first reply. Rage.

    You could also make an argument for Attuma, Tiger Shark, full-strength Wrecker and even the strongest versions of Hyde.

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    Rhino
    The Wrecker
    Smasher

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beadle View Post
    In which case we're probably back to one of the guys I mentioned in my first reply. Rage.

    You could also make an argument for Attuma, Tiger Shark, full-strength Wrecker and even the strongest versions of Hyde.
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    Jesus, what a depressing list. C'mon, Piotr, step it up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyke View Post
    Jesus, what a depressing list. C'mon, Piotr, step it up!
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    Colossus doesn't necessarily need to be any stronger for his narrative role though, being a team character and all. Like, if he got brought up any higher in the Marvel rankings he'd be a decent fight for classic Juggernaut solo, which would make guys on that level less of a team threat.

    Not every brick needs to be Hulk level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Morgan View Post
    Colossus doesn't necessarily need to be any stronger for his narrative role though, being a team character and all. Like, if he got brought up any higher in the Marvel rankings he'd be a decent fight for classic Juggernaut solo, which would make guys on that level less of a team threat.

    Not every brick needs to be Hulk level.
    No, not every brick needs to be Hulk level, but Thing serves a similar purpose on his team yet has a much better win record. Arguably Wonder Man for the Avengers, too. Given that Colossus is one of the physically strongest mutants on the planet and a mainstay X-Man, one would think that he'd fare better -- but in no less than 3 stories within the past decade, his purpose in the books wasn't just to job in order to show the powerful threat, his arms were broken all 3 times (which is a very specific thing to do, and in fairness, one of those times was by the Hulk himself).

    Part of it is, unlike bricks in a similar weight/strength class, Piotr's pretty lacking in feats despite his fame and documented power.
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