Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew) Appreciation - "To Know Her is to Fear Her"

[Huntsman Spider]

Huh. It's actually established that she WANTS webs.

XD of course she does. Although that reads nto me like Jess is telling Peter we can't always get what we want? Either way, I love that exchange between them.

Agreed. I don't think it was a really serious statement of want... more just countering him saying he wants a skrull detector. And I, too, always found this exchange amusing.

I love their banter. They should team up more often so they can banter more often. Hell, with the whole Hunt for Wolverine going on, and given that Jessica is friends (somewhat) with Logan, too, shouldn't she be in The Adamantium Agenda or teaming up with the X-Ladies in Madripoor?

[Seren]

That's what I'm saying but apparently the author forgot that. Kinda bums me out.

[Lukmendes]

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Found on yamaorce.deviantart.com. Hope this helps.

Fuck, just the mask alone made the costume so much better.

Huh. It's actually established that she WANTS webs.

I think she's just joking here.

It's also funny how easy it is to tell this is Bendis lol.

[Digifiend]

I love their banter. They should team up more often so they can banter more often. Hell, with the whole Hunt for Wolverine going on, and given that Jessica is friends (somewhat) with Logan, too, shouldn't she be in The Adamantium Agenda or teaming up with the X-Ladies in Madripoor?

Adamantium Agenda is part of the old Bendis New Avengers team, which Jessica was on, so yes, she should.

[danielsan52]

I always imagined her using web shooters not to swing from or trap things in .... but to channel her venom blasts more accurately.

[Huntsman Spider]

That's what I'm saying but apparently the author forgot that. Kinda bums me out.

Yeah, same here.

Adamantium Agenda is part of the old Bendis New Avengers team, which Jessica was on, so yes, she should.

Glad I'm not alone in this, then.

I always imagined her using web shooters not to swing from or trap things in .... but to channel her venom blasts more accurately.

That could actually work.

[Thirteen]

Has any Marvel character ever went from such a great costume to such bad one? The original costume is perfection...

I much prefer the new one, though I love the old one too. We have this conversation a lot in this thread

The costume conversation deserves a thread of its own. I hate to see (and participate) Appreciation threads for female heroes that constantly drift overwhelming back to discussions of costume fashion and hair. It feels sexist.

I think that more than a couple of Kris Anka's pitches for that new costume had a mask involved (or some kind of mechanism where the sunglasses expanded into a mask similar to Carol's costume), but Marvel went with the glasses since I guess they don't like masks anymore.

I think all their heroes that currently don't have masks and used to have them would look way better if they got masks again.

Its the Cinematic effect, unfortunately. Remember you can keep the FUN in FUNctional!
But yeah, the sunglasses were meant to expand into a mask per Anka design.

[Huntsman Spider]

The costume conversation deserves a thread of its own. I hate to see (and participate) Appreciation threads for female heroes that constantly drift overwhelming back to discussions of costume fashion and hair. It feels sexist.



Its the Cinematic effect, unfortunately. Remember you can keep the FUN in FUNctional!
But yeah, the sunglasses were meant to expand into a mask per Anka design.

I think the problem is that for most of comics history, costumes for female characters, heroes or villains, weren't made to be practical or sensible; they were made in many cases simply to display desirable female physical attributes, practicality or sensibility be damned. As of the last decade or so, there has been a significant shift toward emphasizing female characters, heroes and villains alike, as being capable of more than just eye candy for what's presumed to be a primarily male readership/fandom, never mind the (surprisingly) high percentage of women in said readership, hence costumes that are more tactical or militaristic or just plain more modest than in the past. Of course, for those who enjoyed the earlier costumes, the newer costumes are "boring" and/or "ugly," never mind the greater (or more pervasive) ugliness implicit in how female characters' costumes were designed largely for certain kinds of physical or visual appeal.

[The_Greatest_Username]

I think the problem is that for most of comics history, costumes for female characters, heroes or villains, weren't made to be practical or sensible; they were made in many cases simply to display desirable female physical attributes, practicality or sensibility be damned. As of the last decade or so, there has been a significant shift toward emphasizing female characters, heroes and villains alike, as being capable of more than just eye candy for what's presumed to be a primarily male readership/fandom, never mind the (surprisingly) high percentage of women in said readership, hence costumes that are more tactical or militaristic or just plain more modest than in the past. Of course, for those who enjoyed the earlier costumes, the newer costumes are "boring" and/or "ugly," never mind the greater (or more pervasive) ugliness implicit in how female characters' costumes were designed largely for certain kinds of physical or visual appeal.

Superhero costumes regardless of the gender of who's wearing it have always been designed to be visually appealing. Spider-Woman's older costume technically covered more than her current "costume". The redesign came from a backlash towards Milo Manara's odd variant cover.

[Seren]

Jess was well on the way to getting a new costume before the Anka design was even debuted though. They had Anka working on them right around SDCC.

[Huntsman Spider]

Superhero costumes regardless of the gender of who's wearing it have always been designed to be visually appealing. Spider-Woman's older costume technically covered more than her current "costume". The redesign came from a backlash towards Milo Manara's odd variant cover.

Point, though I would say that all Milo Manara's variant cover did was draw more attention to something that had been a serious issue with Jessica's costume for a good while, anyway, albeit not addressed until Manara's variant forced Marvel to do so publicly. Really wish it hadn't come to that, but sometimes, the only way to get a company to listen and make changes for (possibly) better is for someone to go too far for members of the consuming public not to force the company to address (or redress) the problem.

Jess was well on the way to getting a new costume before the Anka design was even debuted though. They had Anka working on them right around SDCC.

Hmm, really? SDCC 2014? Considering her new costume technically first debuted in the mobile game Spider-Man Unlimited, shortly before it appeared in her comic series, I could see that happening. Did he show any preliminary sketches or something like that there?

[Digifiend]

That makes sense, because the costume was probably designed before issue 1 was drawn, but it couldn't be used at first, because the series launched as a Spider-Verse tie-in.

[Seren]

He stated on Twitter that he began the design in July 2014. Maybe not necessarily SDCC but still.

https://twitter.com/kristaferanka/st...258055682?s=19

[Huntsman Spider]

He stated on Twitter that he began the design in July 2014. Maybe not necessarily SDCC but still.

https://twitter.com/kristaferanka/st...258055682?s=19

Thanks for the clarification.

[Digifiend]

Former Spider-Woman artist Veronica Fish is doing an AMA: https://www.reddit.com/r/comicbooks/...or_dark_horse/