Wonder Woman Movie Discussion & SPOILERS

[dianafan1985]

My turn to apologize for being unclear. Your original post I was answering said...



...and this is what I was referring to. Byrne drew and wrote the book from 1995 - 1998, with Diana becoming in a goddess in the last 10 issues. That may be where the references to her being a goddess on the DC website came from, though I don't think anyone payed a lot of attention to the idea in the book after Byrne's departure.

I don't think it has anything to do with Diana becoming a goddess, I think it has to do with the capabilities of Diana that has rivalled the capabilities of gods or goddesses. The feats that she can perform are on a god-like level, and she has been consistently portrayed this way for decades, not just by Byrnes but by several creators. The word god and goddess (with a common g) have been thrown around to describe several characters in the DCU who are able to do things which far surpasses the skills and aptitudes of ordinary human beings; it doesn't mean that people pray to them, and it doesn't mean that they are ominpotent or ominpresent as the Almighty. It just means that their strength, speed, and other abilities are in a much higher category than that of regular people.

I highly doubt that people in the DCEU have been praying to Diana for the past 100 years.

[dianafan1985]

The best indication that Diana has been active for at least some of the century since the end of WW1 is that Lex is aware of her. Almost everyone who saw her in action was killed in the gas attack by Ludendorff [it most likely would killed the British and Belgian soldiers as well] and its a pretty safe bet none of Steve's team would have said anything. There would have been rumours perhaps, but mostly unverifiable. So there must have been reports of a "wonder woman" other than what happened on that single battlefield that got Lex digging in the first place.

That said, the only clue he is able to scrounge up is that one photo. So from that we may assume that Diana worked hard to keep any record of her actual identity hidden.

Furthermore, Diana is aware of Lex's digging into her affairs as well, which is why she turns up at his part in Gotham. So that must mean even is she is not heroing in costume she was still active at some level.

Wouldn't the photographer from 1918 keep the picture and pass the stories of Diana's heroism down to his descendants; what about the people who witnessed her flipping a tank and destroying that church? I am sure they all had descendants who Lex probably contacted.

[Pinsir]

Some of these 'critiques' I have seen of this film are out right anti-Semitic. Simply because Gal Gadot is an Israeli who does not outright rebuke her citizenship, the film gets slotted as imperialist and anti-feminist.

[Jim Kelly]

All the people in that village died, because of the gas attack. And when Ares is finally defeated, we just see a few soldiers left standing--which is why they're so happy and hugging, because they just went through helll and they're still alive to tell about it.

The guy who took the photo, I reason, must have got out of town as quick as he could. He obviously didn't die in the gas attack, because he was able to get back to his dark room and process the plate and save the photo. But for all we know that photo was stuck in a folder somewhere for decades. You see this kind of thing in the news all the time, where someone has found a stash of old photos stuck in a crawl space.

[dianafan1985]

All the people in that village died, because of the gas attack. And when Ares is finally defeated, we just see a few soldiers left standing--which is why they're so happy and hugging, because they just went through helll and they're still alive to tell about it.

The guy who took the photo, I reason, must have got out of town as quick as he could. He obviously didn't die in the gas attack, because he was able to get back to his dark room and process the plate and save the photo. But for all we know that photo was stuck in a folder somewhere for decades. You see this kind of thing in the news all the time, where someone has found a stash of old photos stuck in a crawl space.

I thought the village that got gased was a different village; or maybe I didn't catch that detail. Are you sure? And even if that were the case, there could have been one who escaped and survived.

[Vanguard-01]

I thought the village that got gased was a different village; or maybe I didn't catch that detail. Are you sure? And even if that were the case, there could have been one who escaped and survived.

Nope. It was definitely the same village. That's why it was such a blow to Diana. She just saved all those people. She watched them dance and sing in the streets after being liberated. Then? A day or two later, at most, they all died anyway because of one man's cruelty. That's just one more thing that made her certain that Luddendorf was Ares. That seems like EXACTLY the kind of thing Ares would do.

[Jim Kelly]

Eugene Brave Rock was honoured by the Blood Tribe with a headdress.

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[dianafan1985]

Nope. It was definitely the same village. That's why it was such a blow to Diana. She just saved all those people. She watched them dance and sing in the streets after being liberated. Then? A day or two later, at most, they all died anyway because of one man's cruelty. That's just one more thing that made her certain that Luddendorf was Ares. That seems like EXACTLY the kind of thing Ares would do.

Makes a lot more sense to me now: the sequence of events that lead to the battle. Poor Diana, her innocence was indeed shattered at that scene. I will pay close attention to that particular scene when I see the movie again next week. The only detail I was able to catch the second time I watched the movie was when the Amazon doctor was surprised (and commented that it was strange) as to how quickly she healed from that huge gash that was on her arm, which apparently was not there anymore (after the bandage was removed). There was not even a scab or a scar which was the first indication that she was really special.

[Vanguard-01]

Eugene Brave Rock was honoured by the Blood Tribe with a headdress.

eugene-brave-rock-with-family.jpg

Well deserved. For such a small role, he was really memorable and added some depth to the story.

I swear, I'd love it if WB would make a prequel movie featuring just Steve, Etta, and his team going on some of their pre-Diana adventures.

[dianafan1985]

Has anyone commented about the score of this film? I thought the background music was really on point (one example was the scene of Antiope training Diana). The music was just appropriate for a warrior/super hero film; it was not modern, it was not edgy, it was just classical. Too many times, I have seen modern comic films use what I describe as vomit music, techno fast beating... crap that doesn't jive well with honour, and class, in terms of how I believe these characters should be portrayed. Of course this is just my opinion; I prefer old school musical scores in warrior films, and I got it from Wonder Woman.

This movie was perfect in so many ways; the only great regret I have is that she never flew (as in fly with the birds fly), but it delivered on so many other levels, and is truly one of the best movies I have ever seen.

[My Two Cents]

Or they used the Purple healing Ray, but the producers and directors did not wish to mention it
because it would diminish the apparent deaths of some of the Amazon's on the beach,
one or more who will probably appear in future DCEU films.

[dianafan1985]

Or they used the Purple healing Ray, but the producers and directors did not wish to mention it
because it would diminish the apparent deaths of some of the Amazon's on the beach,
one or more who will probably appear in future DCEU films.

I don't think so because the Amazon doctor commented "strange" when she pulled the bandage which indicates surprise because she did not expect to see her arm without a wound. There was no purple ray gun in sight.

[Jim Kelly]

I think Steve's strange bath was the movie equivalent of the purple healing ray.

[Bukdiah]

Has anyone commented about the score of this film? I thought the background music was really on point (one example was the scene of Antiope training Diana). The music was just appropriate for a warrior/super hero film; it was not modern, it was not edgy, it was just classical. Too many times, I have seen modern comic films use what I describe as vomit music, techno fast beating... crap that doesn't jive well with honour, and class, in terms of how I believe these characters should be portrayed. Of course this is just my opinion; I prefer old school musical scores in warrior films, and I got it from Wonder Woman.

This movie was perfect in so many ways; the only great regret I have is that she never flew (as in fly with the birds fly), but it delivered on so many other levels, and is truly one of the best movies I have ever seen.

WW's theme when she steps into a fray was kinda porno riffy to me, but the rest served it's purpose pretty well.

[dianafan1985]

Well at least Gal acknowledges that Wonder Woman can fight and fly from this clip: